aaah... why .. why cant i reach some sort of platform of tone...

[kramer1309]

Thanks for the motivation bleh-, but i'm sure there is a long way to go ahead
Scratch Tracks Available:
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/1511344/ToneTest - Scratch Tracks.rar
NOTES:-
Tempo: 150
Each guitar track has 3 varieties:
POD: a good preset found on sevenstring.org and tweaked, based on a uberschall with a TS and a Treadplate 4x12
DI: dry track passed through the pod's usb (using the pod as an interface)
PreDI: I realise that the DI signal seems alittle dull so i tried to bring up the volume and a little eq using the vocal preamps of the podx3live
The bass tracks are simply DI recorded - you'll have to pitch shift them and use effects
Post processing in the track - simply a high and low pass on guitars at 12,000Hz and 200Hz, a low pass at 160Hz on bass and a 3db bump at about 1500Hz & for drums, some compression, a tad bit
eq and a 3db high shelf from 5000Hz for some sheen (i think) on the drum mixdown

Hope you guys can do something awesome with this stuff so that i have some hope..

 

[Fox Mulder]

No, no, no. They're all wrong.
Try this and all your problems would be solved.

 

[kramer1309]

About the amp...

tried out a 6505+ through a peavy cab recently ... sounded very amazing but...... unfortunately, at this time of life i don't have the luxury of the oppurtunity to even consider anything worth considering in the real amp realm

Plus, the results that i have heard here with ampsims... this is nothing compared to those.. i can't keep on buying gear without extracting the best of what i have, that would just be wasting (fictional) money..

 

[Fox Mulder]

Get a TS, Mod it. Fuck the TS sims.
If you don't like it, try out a SD-1.

 

[NickL]

As much as I'm onboard with PODs for demos and home recordings, it is just infinitely easier to pull a good tone out of a miced amp.
I think Catch 33 was a Pod tone? Does anyone remember that?

 

[kramer1309]

maamar - do you mean that i should use a real TS infront of the ampsims? will that really work to improve the tone?

The Broodwich - hey, i'm all down for the hardwork with the ampsims/pod, right now an amp is just not an option..

Some comments on the tone?
Attempts at reamping with either amps/ampsims?
pls?

 

[Fox Mulder]

Obviously

 

[kramer1309]

what mods would you recommend in that case on the ts or will stock be good enough?

You see, the frustration comes from the fact that ppl are getting a million times better tones with purely virtual setups and i'd like to get there without any more expense if possible.. (i know a TS is just $40, but i'm in India, where you don't really get alot of smaller things, or bigger gear like nice amps)

 

[NickL]

yeah itll work fine because you're not really trying to boost the signal anyway. just color it.

And Kramer, I figured that was the case. Thats how it is at my apartment. I like to be able to tracks ideas late at night so i use the pod mostly, but its such a pain in comparison.

 

[Harry Hughes]

As much as I'm onboard with PODs for demos and home recordings, it is just infinitely easier to pull a good tone out of a miced amp.
I think Catch 33 was a Pod tone? Does anyone remember that?

Everything since Nothing has been Line 6.
obZen would have been Vetta II though.

 

[smy1]

Folks. I thought this board and people like Joey or Misha were actually the reason why we kinda stopped saying that the problem lies with the POD. It doesn't - it's the user's problem. His/her ears and skills are just not up to it.

The only thing I can say when listening to the OP's clip is: reduce the gain a lot and play tighter - also make the bass as solid as you can to give your guitars definition and bottom.

 

[kramer1309]

thanks smy1, thats exactly the type of response i was looking for...
get ready for a buttload of questions... (sorry for asking so many )

could you try doing something with the scratch tracks please so i can see what is possible?
i want to know like are my DI's good enough for reamping? Which ones work better, simply POD DI's or the ones with Vocal Preamp emulation from the pod to emulate a DI box in the signal chain (the ones named PreDI) ?
the gain was at around 40% on the pod, still reduce it further? Is my playing really that bad?
how would you recommend making the bass more solid while pitch shifting guitars?
Thanks

 

[kramer1309]

pls guys.. i'd really appreciate alot more opinions..