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BEYOND TWILIGHT's "The Devil's Hall Of Fame" is the best album Jorn ever sang on.
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Close, but no cigar ...
BEYOND TWILIGHT's "The Devil's Hall Of Fame" is the best album Jorn ever sang on.
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Justin G
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Claus / Intromental
20 years of uniting the powers of metal
We need an alcohol check here before people start posting ... you really shouldn't write stuff like that
"Burn The Sun" is an incredible disc, but "The Devil's Hall Of Fame" is just better than most anything else you'll ever put in your CD player.
Oh, and this discussion is hereby over, because I'm right and you're wrong. That's just the way it is
labrekk
Member
To each his own, as this album never ever clicked with me. So, it's far from the best album Jorn sang on IMO. And it's not Ark-Burn the Sun either.
I would say it's probably the first Masterplan but I enjoy lots of his stuff...
Jasonic
Doom On!
This Solemn Vow. It was one of those (at the time) big fad christian metal core bands.
http://www.myspace.com/thissolemnvow
haha actually if you listen to one of the most current recordings "Snakes and trees" you will hear the intro riff from the song "dragonflight" off of the first SK album. (i had already left way before this.)
We got on to the 4 FL dates on warped 06', ernie ball, hurly and hot topic stages (x2), dont ask me how. Was rediculous. Played infront of like several thousand at the jacksonville one. but ya, I left soon after and formed the first lineup of Seven Kingdoms as originally a fun project to try and write some power metal. Was time for me to start writing music I actually enjoyed since I never really had much say in it.
But yep those are my roots. you know, breakdowns, screaming your head off. I had just basically picked up a guitar in 2004 after I quit racing because of this crash:
http://doublezeroproductions.com/images/CamdenCrash.mov
Glad I saw the light
Justin G
Member
We need an alcohol check here before people start posting ... you really shouldn't write stuff like that
"Burn The Sun" is an incredible disc, but "The Devil's Hall Of Fame" is just better than most anything else you'll ever put in your CD player.
Oh, and this discussion is hereby over, because I'm right and you're wrong. That's just the way it is
Somehow I knew that answer was coming.
Maybe some Motorhead would help you regain your perspective.
TribunalRecords
Record Label(s)/Vocalist
DTJeff
I Am My Nation
LOVE the new album. "The Guardian" and "The Artist" really took me by surprise. I think I like it more than The Revenge overall. Can't go wrong with any of the 3 though.
DTJeff
I Am My Nation
Also, apparently I'll be the first one to throw a vote in for the first 2 Masterplan discs being my favorite Jorn work. Those, plus Burn the Sun, and honestly his work on the past 3 Avantasia discs are my favorite vocal performances of his. Also, "Worldchanger" was a great album, shame his solo band is nothing like that these days.
Get the first ALLEN/LANDE. It's awesome.
If you have a ton of cash burning a hole in your pocket, get the second ALLEN/LANDE as well.
But for all that's holy, STAY AWAY from the third (new) disc. It totally sucks
c.
They're getting too emotional for me.. too many damn ballads on this new one. Didn't like it
Yep
I saw kill Whitney dead with dead man In Reno in Jacksonville like 3 or 4 years ago at thee imperial.
seh750
Member
Gotta agree, absolutely love that album. Heal the Water!!!
Jorn's duet with Floor on "Beneath The Waves" on Ayreon's zeroes and ones album is one of my favorites by those two.
Just ordered the new Allen/Lande...we'll see how that goes. Enjoyed the last two although I don't think their the best work by either singer.
J. Golden
Heaven and Hell Records
Awesome! Thanks man. LOL you know there is no cash burning hahaha, I youtube'd it and was wowing. I dont know which songs were from which album but i'll deff check them out. I feel terrible downloading things sometimes because its defeating the whole purpose of supporting music. BUT im pretty sure im supporting it, well at least one band in mind lol.
Hopefully I wont be broke after tour, ill get to catch up on some purchaces for my slowly growing collection! Not everyone can have that epicly rediculous collection that you have! haha
I have never listened to Fates Warning. -HAHAHA
I see what your saying but realize that im 22 and 4 years ago I was on stage at warped tour in metalcore band, never even knowing who Blind Guardian was. It was shortly after that, that I discovered this genre and got hooked, started a new band and really started playing the music I really enjoyed and loved to listen to.
I guess Obviously it all started with dragonforce *ducks, but that was short lived. I was then introduced to BG, Rhapsody and Hammerfall and worked my way (still am) backwards. I discovered Edguy about 4 months before we recorded our current album and was like, well great.... now i have all these ideas and no time to put some of this stuff on the record
Anywho, im doing some serious back tracking to try and get all the inspration, on my behalf, for our next record. That one will be our most focused and dynamic one yet. We already have one song almost done and its already like a big melting pot of what we missed and didnt have time to do on the last record.
I also basically grew up at morrisound for recording. so naturally I grew an ear for $$$ in production value. So bands like helloween never caught my ear because their albums didnt sound like those of say iced earth or BG's nightfall or Hammerfall. Now i find myself missing out on a lot of great music that i skipped over (not knowingly) because the production wasnt as in my face as some others.....
Anyways, i still have a long way to go to get to the status of you older guys
I still havent even heard any of the Jorn stuff. Ill have to check it out
I could have guessed all of that and would have figured Dragonforce was the gateway, no problem with that I guess.
If you just go on "production value then you will limit yourself to a lot of good stuff. Personally I cannot stand modern product on most stuff it makes everything sound the same, all the Sonata Articas and Kamelots are interchangeable in my opinion. This is usually due to the same over processed clickish production. It is difficult to tell is any band is good because they are are processed the same. Hell I cannot tell one drummer from another anymore because it is all the same machine. Well I could go on...
Justin G
Member
Ya I totally know what youre saying. Unfortunitally technology and high end record labels have made it so....it would be impossible for a band to have a meh recording and get signed unless they are really just rediculous.
TribunalRecords
Record Label(s)/Vocalist
Yep
I saw kill Whitney dead with dead man In Reno in Jacksonville like 3 or 4 years ago at thee imperial.
wow, that was a long time ago and our first tour! haha. we all thought jacksonsville was possibly the hottest place on earth. dead man in reno, i haven't talked to those guys in forever actually. good dudes for sure.
It was a very different world 25 years ago. All we had was the radio, MTV, the occasional copy of Circus magazine and our friends to swap tapes with. We didn't have instant access to every band that has ever or currently exists like people do now. If bands weren't getting airplay back then and/or you didn't have friends who were into them it was much more difficult to get exposed to bands like Fates or Helloween. I was very much into Priest/Maiden/Crue/Ratt/Queensryche/Metallica/Tesla/all the rest from that era but I wasn't even vaguely aware Fates or Helloween until way later. Helloween I got into around the time they released The Dark Ride but by the time I was aware of Fates Warning they were over so I never bothered to listen to them until they were announced to play ProgPower. There is simply too much music for everyone that is into the genre to be aware of and familiar with all of it.
J. Golden
Heaven and Hell Records
Um, I recall Helloween videos on MTV quite often not to mention the Hell on Wheels concert on MTV, I actually saw them first time on Headbanger's Ball the night I first saw Queensryche. There seemed to be plenty magazine coverage of Helloween and strangely lesser Fates Warning. Now Cirus normally only centered around a hand full of bands so it would not be surprising not to see either band mentioned there. Also I recall big retail record store carrying Helloween singles.
Helloween were not invisible in the 80s over here in the U.S., granted they were not as mean stream as Crue, Ratt, or even Iron Maiden but their presents could be seen if one paid attention. As for Fates Warning well in the beginning that may have been difficult but by fourth album they too were starting to get more of a push here in the U.S. By the fifth album there were plenty of ads in U.S. metal magazines and videos every Saturday on the Ball. Like Helloween they were there and not that difficult to see.
I'm not saying that it was impossible to be aware of them, just far more difficult. I'm sure they were on MTV/Headbangers Ball, but I was a teen and my parents were pretty strict about the amount of TV I was allowed to watch, and they certainly wouldn't stand for any late-night metal-fest shows (wasn't HBB on really late? or did that come later when they were moving away from the genre?). We didn't even have a VCR so I couldn't record it. People in NYC or LA may have had radio stations that would play Helloween, but in little ol' Spokane, WA we didn't have a station that would even come close. Friends were the #1 way I got introduced to new bands, and since none of my friends were into FW or Helloween I never heard them either.
I'm sure if I'd "done my homework" I could've become aware of them, but I didn't need to. I was a teen in the 80's and I was up to my ears in metal! There was already too much for me to take it all in so I didn't need to search out lesser-known bands to fill any kind of void. When American metal dried up a decade later I eventually did do just that and that is when I became aware of a lot of bands I'd missed back in the day.
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