Ann Coulter Says "Liberalism is a Religion"

[Europa Ascendent]

Ann is right, of course. However, as usual, she fails to comprehend the whole of the situation.

Conservatism is Liberalism is Christianity is Judaism

It's ALL fucking religion, and what's more, it's the same fucking religion...and the creed never changes:

"I am human. I am special. I am chosen. Death is not real. More plastic doodads for the landfill, please."

Fuck off and die.

 

[speed]

Ann is right, of course. However, as usual, she fails to comprehend the whole of the situation.

Conservatism is Liberalism is Christianity is Judaism

It's ALL fucking religion, and what's more, it's the same fucking religion...and the creed never changes:

"I am human. I am special. I am chosen. Death is not real. More plastic doodads for the landfill, please."

Fuck off and die.

Each one you listed (Conservatism, Christianity, liberalism) can be rigidly dogmatic, especially in forms such as the neo-con conservatism Ann Coulter follows. This is the drawback to most everything however. Once dogmatism become entrenched, and its followers never question their beliefs, but only attack their dogmatic enemies, the religion, philosophy, or political theory, becomes a nightmare.

 

[derek]

While it is rather unphilosophical, I'd very much like to bitch slap Ann Coulter.

 

[Silver Incubus]

I think speed had it right. There is no separation in religion or politics. Its all the same trappings for a mind that cannot think for itself. Its the abuse of mob mentality and tribal feeling of belonging.

 

[SoundMaster]

Through default, however, one has to participate. Take America, for example. Should the average citizen not fight to prevent another neo-con from being elected in 2008? Sure, it's easy to say "all politicians are liars", or all are 'evil', or whatever, but that's a gross simplification.

So while "liberals" or "conservatives", etc., at times can exhibit 'religious tendencies', there can be benefit from it.

 

[speed]

Through default, however, one has to participate. Take America, for example. Should the average citizen not fight to prevent another neo-con from being elected in 2008? Sure, it's easy to say "all politicians are liars", or all are 'evil', or whatever, but that's a gross simplification.

So while "liberals" or "conservatives", etc., at times can exhibit 'religious tendencies', there can be benefit from it.

I think this shows how absurd our social systems and beliefs are. As what you are saying is, to defeat one dogma, one must fanatically adhere to another dogma. I suppose that is how things have worked in the world, and will continue to work (dogmas replacing dogmas), but I want nothing to do with it.

 

[Silver Incubus]

And that is why I will not vote until there is someone running who is worth voting for. Although in Canada there are 4 major parties, one is french and is all about french soveignty and then its pretty much the same Liberal, Conservative, and the NDP(New Democratic Party) which is very Leftist, and Socialist type party for the working people.

 

[SoundMaster]

I think this shows how absurd our social systems and beliefs are. As what you are saying is, to defeat one dogma, one must fanatically adhere to another dogma. I suppose that is how things have worked in the world, and will continue to work (dogmas replacing dogmas), but I want nothing to do with it.

One must not "frantically adhere to a dogma" simply for the sake of it. Rather, if one group's views/goals closely resemble your own, therein lies the benefit of casting your vote, etc.

Again, to say that both parties or both views are identical is assinine. That's simply untrue. The effects of certain leaders can clearly be measured. Or can, at least, be assessed. With that said, there can be a tremendous difference between two candidates.

It's very easy to simply remove oneself from society and hide (or believe you're removed), but the fact remains that you're still a part of it. So why not act in your own best interests? Try to sift through the rhetoric as much as possible, discern the 10% of it that's truth, and take it from there.

As you've stated, this is what it is. The old saying "the lesser of two evils" can readily be employed when discussing politics (and it often is).

If anyone can offer a realistic alternative - realistic - then I'd love to hear it.

 

[SoundMaster]

And that is why I will not vote until there is someone running who is worth voting for. Although in Canada there are 4 major parties, one is french and is all about french soveignty and then its pretty much the same Liberal, Conservative, and the NDP(New Democratic Party) which is very Leftist, and Socialist type party for the working people.

What alternative would you ever realistically expect to see?

 

[Silver Incubus]

I think the process of electing someone with ideal like mine would be a good altrenative. But that hasn't happened yet. They all work to the same end, they are all corrupt and that sickens me that people bow to the allmighty dollar instead of keeping straight and actually being virtuous and caring about the people whom they serve.

 

[Discovery]

In a system that's complete bullshit you're never going to find someone who is worthy of your vote. So choose not to participate and encourage others not to as well.

 

[SoundMaster]

In a system that's complete bullshit you're never going to find someone who is worthy of your vote. So choose not to participate and encourage others not to as well.

Which is exactly what corrupt leaders want. They want the average citizen to have no opinion, to not exercise their voice/thoughts. That way, you're more easily duped and controlled.

No thanks.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

she's actually quite wrong and is one of the most ignorant christian conservatives in recent memory. she doesn't believe in evolutionary theories and bases ALL of her arguments around that, indirectly or sometimes very directly. instead, she believes in some stories about how human beings were created from dust. now that's intelligence.

 

[Discovery]

Which is exactly what corrupt leaders want. They want the average citizen to have no opinion, to not exercise their voice/thoughts. That way, you're more easily duped and controlled.

No thanks.

Do you really think those in power would allow the people to actually be able to make a change? Hell no, thus we get this fake democracy where you vote for one shithead over another, but have no say in any real change. It's a sham. People need to realize this and stop deluding themselves that one candidate is better than another

 

[SoundMaster]

Do you really think those in power would allow the people to actually be able to make a change? Hell no, thus we get this fake democracy where you vote for one shithead over another, but have no say in any real change. It's a sham. People need to realize this and stop deluding themselves that one candidate is better than another

While it is true that there really is no such thing (in practice) as a true democracy, the fact remains that democratic governments have not yet transformed to dictatorships. Of course, this can happen and is exactly why eyes and ears must be trained on the current American administration. We are close to slipping into the morass you've identified above, but we're not there yet.

Again, it's too easy to simply proclaim that all politicians are exactly the same, or that votes don't matter. Ask yourself this: would Gore have invaded Iraq? If you think so, you have little to no understanding of the current parties (yes, both are twisted and corrupt, but they're still not the same, the end-goals are not entirely the same, etc).

 

[infoterror]

Conservatism is Liberalism is Christianity is Judaism

It's ALL fucking religion, and what's more, it's the same fucking religion...and the creed never changes:

"I am human. I am special. I am chosen. Death is not real. More plastic doodads for the landfill, please."

It's a religion because it goes against common sense. It's a good point that conservativism is essentially liberal -- most people are completely unaware of this (and most other things).

 

[Keltoi]

Political ideology is a religion for those who don't have a spiritual religion. Both politics and religion are filled with dogma and tradition. If I'm a self-proclaimed liberal than 9 times out of 10 I will vote for a Democrat simply because he has a (D) by his name, same with Conservatives and the (R).

 

[Demilich]

Keltoi, I believe you've nailed exactly why I don't align myself with many particular factions in the debates of my life!