Anna Lindh

[mehdi.i.e.e.e]

my words were complementing yours.

 

[mehdi.i.e.e.e]

oh and i like the gob.

 

[Allan]

A sad logic to making dead people into role models, not having to live up to anything.

 

[mehdi.i.e.e.e]

i feel youre starting to feel sad allan. lets talk about gobs instead

 

[Allan]

If we were all as cheerful as you all the time, you wouldn't be so special .

 

[mehdi.i.e.e.e]

dont mind what people say allan, our love is above everything.

 

[Allan]

:Spin: :Spin: :Spin: :Spin: :Spin: :Spin:

And I haven't even started getting drunk.

 

[sol83]

"so let me looooooove you to deeeeeeeeeeeeath..."

 

[Dhatura]

Speaking about "gobs" is fucking sad anyway.

 

[Malaclypse]

yeah we should simply do it

 

[mehdi.i.e.e.e]

gobs are sad? theyre fucking brilliant. thats cause you never had your nob sucked like.

 

[Susie]

Was she fit?

hahhahaha good answer.

 

[intet]

i wonder how you'd feel if you'd been her husband like, or anyone's husband in general. with or without kids. i just get pissed off by these kinda attitudes "too far from my bed" things... even if it's next door.

I did not know her, and that is precisely the point.. Why would I care? If this wasn't reported in the news, you wouldn't care at all; you wouldn't know. But when EVERY channel has 24 straight hours of her photo set to some sad music, and gloomy faces reminiscing about how great she was, then maybe it gets to you: like when Bambi's mother died, you are told to care.

I will care when I care, and not a minute sooner.

By the way, how do get anything done? Mourning everyone who dies.. How much time do you give them all? How long is the waiting queue? I'd like to book a time in advance, please.

political consequenses my arse. do something about it yourself, instead of awaiting the political consequenses, cos it's already too fucking much outta control. cos this crap is inside all of us. nothing political, peeps are that way; i see it as a form of social laziness.

So what's your plan? Put on tights and a cape? Invade Syria? No one can ever be "safe" unless everybody else is locked up, or perhaps on brain-controlling drugs. If we were all engineered clones - all exactly identical and equal - then things might work. ..Or do expect to just tell the "badguys" that they're wrong and they'll stop?

but if you even dont care about next door, what is your freedom worth anyway?

Picture this: I don't like being robbed, so i get together with everyone else who share the same idea and we make a law. I may not have any emotional response to some random person i've never met getting robbed, but how does that stop me from supporting the law? It's beneficial to me.

 

[toolsofthetrade]

I did not know her, and that is precisely the point.. Why would I care? If this wasn't reported in the news, you wouldn't care at all; you wouldn't know. I will care when I care, and not a minute sooner.

i'm not telling you to care, on the contrary - u need to want it yourself, in your own time. and true, everything you see in the news concerning death or suffering can become something one gets numb by. i too can't escape that.
and it's true that if it hadnt been in the news, i wouldnt have known. but this is just a simple example of how numb ppl can be to horrids as this one. ok, you didnt know her personally, or even by telly, but you too must have some imagination.
you dont know me either, but what about ppl posting they lost someone?
ppl you have conversations with. sharing feelings, and jokes, you couldnt give a ducks ass? i'm starting to wonder why you ever started listening to Anathema. that stuff is all about relating mate.

By the way, how do get anything done? Mourning everyone who dies.. How much time do you give them all? How long is the waiting queue? I'd like to book a time in advance, please.

phew, you're a cynical one.. i never said i mourn every death, tho i feel for the ppl who do. cos i know how it feels like. that's called sympathy. a word i cant really extract from your comments my friend.

So what's your plan? Put on tights and a cape? Invade Syria? No one can ever be "safe" unless everybody else is locked up, or perhaps on brain-controlling drugs. If we were all engineered clones - all exactly identical and equal - then things might work. ..Or do expect to just tell the "badguys" that they're wrong and they'll stop?

what my plan is? i doubt that this is a serious question, but ey...
my plan is to be myself as much as possible, and make the best of my opportunities. by that i can try and reflect on what happens around and inside me, and perhaps be of value to others. and i will always speak my mind, and try to appeal to what i find important or lacking.
and have fun ffs!!

Picture this: I don't like being robbed, so i get together with everyone else who share the same idea and we make a law. I may not have any emotional response to some random person i've never met getting robbed, but how does that stop me from supporting the law? It's beneficial to me.

that's totally the thing i'm on about. from my p.o.v., ppl have lost (serious) interest in other ppl, empathy. what i see is that ppl only care for their own sake. mememememememe. "i have worked hard today, so no, old woman, i'm not gonna stand up and offer you my seat in the bus" kinda thing. just a small example of how ppl just wont invest anymore - without expecting anything in return. or invest in the long term.
losing empathy on a broader scale (society in general): here's the example. i would feel like shit if i'd have to live just for myself. if ppl can't invest anymore, shoot me to the moon. luckily enough, i do have mates like that, and hopefully i'm that too. that's where it starts. but that's right now where it ends as well.

as soon as as many ppl as possible see that this leads to nowhere, crimes will drop, and everyone will have enough to eat, drink and build lives on. fair chances, fair play. this is no hippie crap, this is statistically real. it's only lacking a global attitude right now.
if those in charge set an example of the opposing attitude, many will follow, i'm sure of that. many have already followed other examples, and here you have the result. war, theft, rape and murder.

that's what we're used to, so alternatives wont just fly in - an effort has to be made to make changes. that's how i see it, and i believe there are more. but it's easier to keep things as it is.

but regardless, thanx for replying properly.

 

[intet]

as soon as as many ppl as possible see that this leads to nowhere, crimes will drop, and everyone will have enough to eat, drink and build lives on. fair chances, fair play. this is no hippie crap, this is statistically real. it's only lacking a global attitude right now.
if those in charge set an example of the opposing attitude, many will follow, i'm sure of that. many have already followed other examples, and here you have the result. war, theft, rape and murder.

that's what we're used to, so alternatives wont just fly in - an effort has to be made to make changes. that's how i see it, and i believe there are more. but it's easier to keep things as it is.

That's the thing.. You can't really tell everyone to care. I doubt having kids hugged a lot can make up for a part of their brain being different. Some are literally born without morals, or to a varying degree a lesser sense of morals; given the opportunity, a lot of people would steal if they knew they wouldn't get caught, some are prone to uncontrollable anger, some have no problem with killing.

Most can be influenced, sure, but it would do nothing for the really dangerous people, and before we know they have the potential to be dangerous they are free to act. Our sympathy for their victims wouldn't do much.

You could probably change the minds of suicide bombers by changing the religious teachings they are subjected to, but when there is no observable trigger like religion then how do you know who to change?

 

[intet]

Morals wasn't the word i was looking for.. Morals are taught. Conscience is a better word.

 

[Dhatura]

Hehe, this last post saved you from my "but what are you talking about, Intet, universal morality???"

I still believe conscience can be taught too. But people are too quick to adapt to survival "morality", like I teach English at a college where it's not the point how I teach or how I love my work or how much the students enjoy classes or how much they learn. It's just that the school must offer them some kind of language teaching, but there are just too few classes given them to learn the language. So basically, my work has no purpose other than giving me a living. Still, I do it cause I've nothing better to do right now. But the enthusiasm I had at the beginning has died in me. And it sucks. And I'll leave it soon, I guess, cause I'm not a fucking robot (my boss calls us language teachers his "droids", ffs).

And leave dead mothers rest in peace

 

[intet]

I'm not in a Google kind of mood, but:

http://www.bebeyond.com/LearnEnglish/DailyReadings/Opinions/BrainWorks.htm
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/21/1728_55051
http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/26/1728_59230
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/antisocials000214.html

That's what 2 minutes got me.

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By the way, does hungarian differ so from english? Swedish is relatively close, so I just picked it up playing computer games and watching TV.

 

[Dhatura]

By the way, does hungarian differ so from english? Swedish is relatively close, so I just picked it up playing computer games and watching TV.

Good for ya, picking up a language watching tv and all, that makes me think of the shitty film with Antonio Banderas, The Thirteenth Warrior, he's an arab going to fight with the vikings and first he understands fuck but then just starts speaking their language as if it was his mother tongue (though with a slight accent), and when they ask astonished: But how did you learn our language? He says: I LISTENED!

Hungarian is pretty much different from English, I could say the two have nothing in common, lol, except for words we stole from English like revolver, taxi (though that's international), computer, hamburger and the like. It has declension, conjugation and everything a decent language should have, hehe (though it doesn't have genders ). Finnish and Hungarian belong to the same language family, btw.

 

[intet]

I'm sure I could do German too if we had more German programming..

Norwegian and Danish are dead easy: Norwegian is just Swedish done in a hilarious comedy voice, and Danish sounds like a Swede getting deep-throated.

..I'm sure this is all very interesting.