any tips on reamping/micing cab

[d350mh]

I'm just experimenting, reamping one of my songs and was just wondering if anyone had any helpful tips or things i should try.
I'm working with a peavey 6505, maxon od808, mesa 4x12, a 57 and an at 4040.

 

[RedDog]

You kind of can't go wrong with that setup. Mic it up. Crank some jams.

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

I've started using the good old trick of sweeping the cone with the mic while having the amped cranked and unplugged with maximum gain, where the hiss sounds best in my headphones is where I'll place the mic (or better yet mics, I usually go with one dynamic and one ribbon these days) if you wanna do the same thing with a second mic, leave the first one on innyour headphones, flip phase on the mic you're placing and try to get maximum cancellation between the two, then flip it back and you should be good to go.

Since I started doing that I hardly have to do any post-eq to my tracks.

 

[Bay Studio]

Over some time i´ve found out how the 6505/5150 really works/gets that bite and nice low end: Place a 57 on the best speaker of your mesa cab, dead center about an inch away from the grill. That way you get the most presence in tone. On the amp, try this for eg: gain 5 - low 8/9 - Mid 2/4 - Treb 4/5 - Pres - 8/9 - Reso - 7/8. It works really well for me, give it a try and see if you like it!

 

[Trevoire520]

I've started using the good old trick of sweeping the cone with the mic while having the amped cranked and unplugged with maximum gain, where the hiss sounds best in my headphones is where I'll place the mic (or better yet mics, I usually go with one dynamic and one ribbon these days) if you wanna do the same thing with a second mic, leave the first one on innyour headphones, flip phase on the mic you're placing and try to get maximum cancellation between the two, then flip it back and you should be good to go.

Since I started doing that I hardly have to do any post-eq to my tracks.

I've never understood the method behind that. How do you determine what is good hiss vs bad hiss?

Normally I just put a mic where the dustcap meets to cone and adjust from there. Though I have done the phase flip trick for aligning a second mic aswell. Normally lining up the mic's by eye works pretty well too.

 

[SoundsLikeFog]

I've never understood the method behind that. How do you determine what is good hiss vs bad hiss?

Normally I just put a mic where the dustcap meets to cone and adjust from there. Though I have done the phase flip trick for aligning a second mic aswell. Normally lining up the mic's by eye works pretty well too.

Agreed. The idea that there is supposed to be a 'right phase' is ridiculous. Of course you need to be aware how phase cancellation affects your sound, but it's a grave mistake to think you can achieve the "best sound" just by alligning the pair of microphones to 'perfect phase'.

But in scenarios with two microphones on an amp, I've found this plugin to be ridiculously handy.. http://www.airwindows.com/golem.html

Of course, as all Airwindows stuff, just AU.

 

[Fandus]

The phase sweep thing works really well as a form of natural eq. I flip one and move it till that shrill harshness around 4khz is prominent then flip if back and it gives me a nicer tone.

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

I've never understood the method behind that. How do you determine what is good hiss vs bad hiss?

Normally I just put a mic where the dustcap meets to cone and adjust from there. Though I have done the phase flip trick for aligning a second mic aswell. Normally lining up the mic's by eye works pretty well too.

I go by ear, usually the "best sounding" placement for me is where the hiss is the loudest, thats usually the sweetspot for that specific speaker.

 

[Sloan]

Just keep doing it, you will get better. Also, don't be afraid of mids.

 

[if6was9]

Agreed. The idea that there is supposed to be a 'right phase' is ridiculous. Of course you need to be aware how phase cancellation affects your sound, but it's a grave mistake to think you can achieve the "best sound" just by alligning the pair of microphones to 'perfect phase'.

But in scenarios with two microphones on an amp, I've found this plugin to be ridiculously handy.. http://www.airwindows.com/golem.html

Of course, as all Airwindows stuff, just AU.

Of course there's no one right position for phase cancellation. I sweep around until I get the nastiest, thinnest, harshest ugly tone I can then unflip the mics phase and see if I like how it sounds. I'll often do it 4-5 times before I settle on a position because of all the variety of sounds you can get by just moving one of the mics.