I tweaked things a bit and updated the mp3. Thanks for the reply, specially coming from you, love you songs! Actually I started this song using your BigBottom patches, but ended with a DiamondPlate based on JoeyMusicGuy tips. Oh, by the way, you have a ton of patches on the FTP, is there any of them that you consider you favourite? Or one that you think sounds better when you doubletrack (I am not much into quadtrack because I am a crappy guitar player). Thanks again for the reply.