ARCH ENEMY's "Beast Of Man" re-recording posted!

[Virgil.]

On their Myspace page now: http://www.myspace.com/archenemy

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=125177

I'm looking forward to this release more than ever now!

 

[LosingReality]

Oh my god she is TERRIBLE. I fucking hate her.

Fucking ruined the song....and now all those classic AE albums.

Does she have like 9 layered vocals on this track? WTF....man i was hoping they wouldnt do this to their old albums....

 

[tarbh666]

Oh my god she is TERRIBLE. I fucking hate her.

Fucking ruined the song....and now all those classic AE albums.

I agree uke: The originals are WAAAAY better. Lost interest in this band after Wages Of Sin.

 

[Ermz]

Not to curb the enthusiasm and all that, but isn't a band re-recording old material basically an admission that they are on their last legs? I can't say I'm overly psyched to hear Angela perform on these tracks either. Her vocal style is forced at best and terribly one dimensional at worst.

 

[tarbh666]

Not to curb the enthusiasm and all that, but isn't a band re-recording old material basically an admission that they are on their last legs? I can't say I'm overly psyched to hear Angela perform on these tracks either. Her vocal style is forced at best and terribly one dimensional at worst.

I dunno, but the re-recorded version doesn't have the same excitement as the original. Sounds kinda, I dunno, meh? Sounds too pretty to these ears (the playing that is).

 

[LosingReality]

I dunno, but the re-recorded version doesn't have the same excitement as the original. Sounds kinda, I dunno, meh? Sounds too pretty to these ears (the playing that is).

I think the guitars and drums sound good (for being myspace)....but her singing is terrible. Always has been.

Not that Johan was wonderfull....but he fit the music....she doesnt at all. imo.

 

[nwright]

Man, negativity abounds.

I'm a fervent AE fan, and a fan of Angela era MUCH MUCH more than Johan, mainly because I think Angela is a better fit for the band and I like her vocals better.

When you have a history like Arch Enemy, I'd cal it something far different than "being on your last legs" to do something like this. If anything, to me, it reinforces the idea that "Hey, Angela is here, and we aren't going anywhere." It seems like Arch Enemy's fanbase is firmly planted in pre and post Angela camps, and the production values of the old albums are not to the standard they have today. The fact that they did this in between studio releases to me is a sign that they still value the history of their old material, but want to bring it a new life with their current lineup, and PERHAPS try to bridge the gap between the 2 sides of their history. To me that's not a negative. Whether or not fans will accept it in a positive light remains to be seen...I, for one, prefer to look at it like that rather than completely shit on it.

AS a dude who plays in a band, there are many times I think to myself "man, I wish I could go back and re-do these songs today. I think they could sound really good." With a band like AE who has a chance to do it, I'm jealous!

 

[nwright]

I think the guitars and drums sound good (for being myspace)....but her singing is terrible. Always has been.

Not that Johan was wonderfull....but he fit the music....she doesnt at all. imo.

I completely disagree. Hearing her vocals on a few older songs on the live CD set for Tyrants of the Rising Sun, I was thought they were great, especially Dark Insanity, which is probably one of my favorite Johan era tracks.

 

[Jind]

Sounds too pretty to these ears (the playing that is).

Too pretty? - that's sort of why we like Andy's mixes - perfection is the thing. As for this song, I like it. but then again I'm an admitted Arch Enemy "Fanboy"

 

[GeertSamuel]

I dunno. I like it. Don't know if it's something I enjoy better as the original. But I wouldn't say it's bad.

 

[LosingReality]

I completely disagree. Hearing her vocals on a few older songs on the live CD set for Tyrants of the Rising Sun, I was thought they were great, especially Dark Insanity, which is probably one of my favorite Johan era tracks.

^ yep very good song! I havent heard her singing it though.....I have seriously given her a honest go....and i cannot for the life of me get into her vocals.....This beat of man clip could have been much better without the layers and layers of vocals, i think.....even with her on it. But that is really the killing point for me. Sounds like one big crowd singing it...hate it.

Im gonna give the whole CD a listen and hopefully she doesnt do this for every song.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

Her way of singing it´s always the same. She is not much dynamic and that it´s fucking boring.

 

[nwright]

I quite liked her work on ROTT. It was raw and in your face, which is somewhat of a contrast to their last few albums. At times I like the "wall of sound" of multilayered vocals as they can sound sooo evil, but an album full of that is a bit much. But the main thing I like about Rise of the Tyrant IS how raw Angela sounds...If you had those raw vocals on an Andy mix, ROTT would have been a masterpiece, IMHO...Which is why, again, I love the live CD for Tyrants of the Rising Sun...on the ROTT tracks, I at least get some Andy magic with those songs!

 

[Torniojaws]

I don't really like the sound of the mix It's so powerless compared to the rawness of the original... And yep, Angela can't touch Johan's voice.

 

[nwright]

I'd wager that if anyone posted mixes like those old AE mixes TODAY on this forum, most of us wouldn't herald the rawness.

you guys are a tough crowd.

 

[cobhc]

It's ok I guess, but I think they should have left the old songs as they were.

 

[The Unavoidable]

Her way of singing it´s always the same. She is not much dynamic and that it´s fucking boring.

So how does that differ from Johans work?

I'm really looking forward to hearing this. To much bitching going on about this IMO.

 

[AllanD]

In Flames should do this with Lunar Strain. Maybe.






Scratch that, probably not. No band should re-record songs unless it's the same band, they're going in the same direction, and they just wanted better quality.

 

[Damphire]

Her way of singing it´s always the same. She is not much dynamic and that it´s fucking boring.

I disagree, if you listen (really listen) to their latest album you'll notice that she has added to her vocals a lot of different shades. Now Liiva WAS boring, thus its difficult to "cover" him without falling in his sames mistakes.

 

[Virgil.]

Her way of singing it´s always the same. She is not much dynamic and that it´s fucking boring.

That's the same way I feel about Johan. I HATE the old vocals on their older albums. The only thing that even remotely interested me about their older albums was the music.

I think it's very subjective whether or not you're going to either love or hate these re-recordings. The first AE album I heard was Wages Of Sin, so I'm extremely biased. Since Angela was the first singer I heard for the band, and I fell in love with their music from that album, I'm much more biased for their music w/ Angela singing. Those that heard AE back when Johan was their vocalist, you're going to probably hate the re-recordings with Angela; because, it's taking the albums you fell in love with, and changing them. If If your first exposure to the band was with Angela, you might enjoy these more-so than the originals with Johan. I can understand that. But I HATE it when people get on and say that it was "fucking terrible" or "uke:" just because they don't like it. That's your personal opinion.

If you don't want to listen to Angela, then by all means, don't buy it or don't listen to any more of the clips that come out. If you'd rather listen to some sweaty monotone swedish dude, that's your prerogative. If you already hate Angela, and you loved the AE albums with Johan, why would you even bother listening to the clips? You already knew what to expect.

I think this sounds great. And Andy's mixing work sounds great too!

So how does that differ from Johans work?

I'm really looking forward to hearing this. To much bitching going on about this IMO.

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