J-Dubya 777
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Not to mention TOURS vs. a festival.....One travels, one stays put. It's an invalid comparison, imo.....:Smug:
Are you sittind down Zod? Pain of Salvation news
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Not to mention TOURS vs. a festival.....One travels, one stays put. It's an invalid comparison, imo.....:Smug:
Jax
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If you are against smoking pot and prostitution, will you ever set foot in Amsterdam, I don't think so. If he was against our policies and regulations then he has every right to not want to step foot in our country. Half the time I want to step foot out of this country, so I don't blame him in the least bit. PoS is my all time favorite band and they do no wrong. If I don't agree with Daniel, I am not going to hold it against him just because his opinion or thought is of a different nature than mine. People need to grow the fuck up.
Iced Dog
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Wow, pretty entertaining thread. It almost makes me want to listen to a Pain Of Salvation song, something I've never done.
*ponders the prospect*
*ponders the prospect*
zedowns
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What are you waiting for? They're either gonna be your new favorite band or you get to join in on the fun and bash them at every opportunity. Win/Win situation, IMO.
Kimavir
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I don't drink milk because levels of allowed puss in the US are enough that it would be labeled "rancid" in much of the world. Does that hurt the milk producers or make them improve their standards? Impact regulations on infected puss in what you drink? No... but I'm still not going to drink the nasty shit.
I just don't think you can fight against something while participating in it. His embargo made perfect sense. No one would take me seriously when I talk about how disgusting milk is if I just grumbled about it while sipping away. Now... if something more important to me made me participate, then that's a different story. For example, I like to be able to afford to eat, so I shop at Wal-Mart when I'd really rather not. Am I a hypocrite? No, I just value food more than fighting against our trade deficit with China.
Sir Exar Kun
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Once they released "Be", the rest of the band became merely backing musicians for the ongoing Daniel Gildenlow project.
Jasonic
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Thank you.
I have been trying to come up with the best way to say what your statement refers to.
While travel has become a lot more restricted, it is being done in the name of security. Sure, some rules and procedures might be extreme, but come on.
As I said before, PoS might be known in the Prog Power circle, but let's face it. It's not like they are in high demand over here in the States. It's not like they have had to turn down a whirlwind of offers to come here in the past 5 years. Therefore, its easy for the dude to get on his soapbox.
Sure, he is certainly entitled to his beliefs.
But if this dude is as intellectual as some of his backers are stating, then how can he lift his embargo based on JUST the election of Obama? Has anything been yet proven to change his views on our policies?
If he were to travel here tomorrow, he would still have to be fingerprinted, no?
No-Mercy
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i didnt know they had an embargo. so lemme get it straight, they wouldnt come play for their fans in the us because they didnt like the country they lived in? is that actually the reason ive never seen them?
Daniel does come across as a bit self-righteous and pompous, but give him credit for having strong convictions, be willing to act on those convictions, and then re-consider when circumstances change.
He is both an artist and a European, things most who post here are not, and because of that one might have a hard time seeing things from Daniel's perspective.
I don't think we really know the extent that many around the world were let down by the USA during the last eight years. RFK Jr. described going to great cities around the world with his father and seeing how much the people loved America. They named boulevards after our great leaders. All of that, he said, changed during the Bush years.
So give Daniel the latitude to be who he is and hope POS will play here again soon.
He is both an artist and a European, things most who post here are not, and because of that one might have a hard time seeing things from Daniel's perspective.
I don't think we really know the extent that many around the world were let down by the USA during the last eight years. RFK Jr. described going to great cities around the world with his father and seeing how much the people loved America. They named boulevards after our great leaders. All of that, he said, changed during the Bush years.
So give Daniel the latitude to be who he is and hope POS will play here again soon.
Palabra de Dios
Heavy Metal Weatherman
Insert purely political comment directed at the person who doesn't believe European countries have free speech.
On topic: I highly doubt that PoS would get booed off the stage at a future ProgPower. I wouldn't really care to watch their performance, but I doubt they'd be booed off. I would hope that the attendees at PPUSA are for more classy than that.
On topic: I highly doubt that PoS would get booed off the stage at a future ProgPower. I wouldn't really care to watch their performance, but I doubt they'd be booed off. I would hope that the attendees at PPUSA are for more classy than that.
General Zod
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Palabra de Dios
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Is Daniel a celebrity even in his home country?
I ask not sarcastically, but because I don't know of the popularity of PoS in Sweden (or the rest of Europe for that matter).
I ask not sarcastically, but because I don't know of the popularity of PoS in Sweden (or the rest of Europe for that matter).
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