- Aug 29, 2005
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I tried a reamping experiment the other night, and I found my reamped tracks had lost a bit of high end compared to the non-reamped tracks I recorded through the same rig. I'm a reamping n00b, and the equipment I used was hardly first-rate (my old iBook/MBox that lives in my jam room) so please bear with me here.
Here's my signal chains:
Guitar- LTD EC1000. Seymour Duncan Custom 5 (bridge) and '59 (neck) --> Boss TU-2 as a signal splitter.
TU-2 normal out --> Boss SD-1 --> Pod XT (L6 Treadplate and AC30 models) --> MBox input 1 (line)
TU-2 bypass out --> MBox input 2 (line)
Yes, I know it would be ideal for me to use the MBox's instrument input, but the clipping indicator on the pre came on occasionally (a strummed open A minor, for example) even with the gain down all the way. The Custom 5 isn't exactly an uber-output pickup, so I wasn't expecting this. I found setting the input to "line" gave me a strong enough signal with plenty of headroom.
I recorded two tests, one high gain and one clean, taking a track from the XT and a clean, dry, direct track each time. Afterwards, I sent the DI track back through the same rig (SD-1 --> Pod XT --> MBox) running from the MBox's unbalanced out, after bringing up the slider a bit to approximate the strength of the original signal. (About 2.5db, if you're wondering.)
I found the reamped tracks were lacking a bit in brightness and top end detail compared to the original "amped" tracks, through the same patches with the same settings. The tones were fine otherwise; you'd have to be listening with a very critical ear to notice, but I suppose that's why we're posting here in the first place. So I'm curious as to why this is.
Is it the length of the cable runs? I used 12' Lava cables and a pair of 1' Lava patch cables to connect the whole thing. Was the reamped signal simply run through too much unbalanced instrument cable?
Is it the A/D conversion on the MBox? I know it's certainly not the greatest thing going in that respect. (I'm recording at 16/44.1, for what it's worth)
Is it the bypass out on the TU-2 I was using as a splitter? I realize in retrospect it's something I didn't test for; a difference in sound between the two outputs.)
Or is this just something inherent in the nature of reamping- a direct recorded guitar tone will respond differently than the same thing, played live through the amp.
Or is it something else entirely?
I prefer darker tones anyway, and I don't think this will be too difficult for me to compensate for, but all the same, I'd like to know what's going on here.
Oddly enough, despite not having a proper DI or dedicated reamp box there, the high end loss was the only issue I had with the reamped tracks.
Anyone?
Here's my signal chains:
Guitar- LTD EC1000. Seymour Duncan Custom 5 (bridge) and '59 (neck) --> Boss TU-2 as a signal splitter.
TU-2 normal out --> Boss SD-1 --> Pod XT (L6 Treadplate and AC30 models) --> MBox input 1 (line)
TU-2 bypass out --> MBox input 2 (line)
Yes, I know it would be ideal for me to use the MBox's instrument input, but the clipping indicator on the pre came on occasionally (a strummed open A minor, for example) even with the gain down all the way. The Custom 5 isn't exactly an uber-output pickup, so I wasn't expecting this. I found setting the input to "line" gave me a strong enough signal with plenty of headroom.
I recorded two tests, one high gain and one clean, taking a track from the XT and a clean, dry, direct track each time. Afterwards, I sent the DI track back through the same rig (SD-1 --> Pod XT --> MBox) running from the MBox's unbalanced out, after bringing up the slider a bit to approximate the strength of the original signal. (About 2.5db, if you're wondering.)
I found the reamped tracks were lacking a bit in brightness and top end detail compared to the original "amped" tracks, through the same patches with the same settings. The tones were fine otherwise; you'd have to be listening with a very critical ear to notice, but I suppose that's why we're posting here in the first place. So I'm curious as to why this is.
Is it the length of the cable runs? I used 12' Lava cables and a pair of 1' Lava patch cables to connect the whole thing. Was the reamped signal simply run through too much unbalanced instrument cable?
Is it the A/D conversion on the MBox? I know it's certainly not the greatest thing going in that respect. (I'm recording at 16/44.1, for what it's worth)
Is it the bypass out on the TU-2 I was using as a splitter? I realize in retrospect it's something I didn't test for; a difference in sound between the two outputs.)
Or is this just something inherent in the nature of reamping- a direct recorded guitar tone will respond differently than the same thing, played live through the amp.
Or is it something else entirely?
I prefer darker tones anyway, and I don't think this will be too difficult for me to compensate for, but all the same, I'd like to know what's going on here.
Oddly enough, despite not having a proper DI or dedicated reamp box there, the high end loss was the only issue I had with the reamped tracks.
Anyone?