Available metal midi drum performances?

[Dave_Syn]

After using the search I read that the best way to learn how to humanize drums is to watch drummers play. I've got that covered for sure, but I'm still a little uncertain on things like what the average velocity should be, how much to vary the velocity between hits, how many ticks to move the hits over etc. I also think it would be beneficial to get a pack of metal midi performances so I can study them just to see.

I saw that a Ron Jarzombek pack is available from Platinum Samples and another pack or two available from Slam Tracks. Is there anything else that I should watch out for? Take in mind I'm probably just going to analyze them, not really use them.

I'm also considering getting a midi drum pad. I wonder if that'll help me out!

 

[MultiM]

Toontrack midi packs are great, I really like them.

 

[HeadCrusher]

If you can wait until next friday the book I'm coming out with will cover all that.

 

[Dave_Syn]

Today?

 

[He's Dead, Jim]

This was done with Drumkit from Hell (skip to 1:40)

[youtube]kdYTLOEaCek#t=102[/youtube]

Could not program that well if my life depended on it.

 

[HeadCrusher]

Today?

No, a week from now. I'll post about it in the bar once it hits but feel free to PM me your email if you want on the list (which will receive all the info first).

 

[Nuno Filipe]

This was done with Drumkit from Hell (skip to 1:40)

[youtube]kdYTLOEaCek#t=102[/youtube]

Could not program that well if my life depended on it.

lol not the best example, it has nice fills but sounds fake as hell. But of course that no one expects a lot of humanization and notes off the grid in a death metal album.

 

[ulverine]

For my band, I use a mix of Toontrack midi, Slam Tracks, and creating my own from basic backbeats with a ton of editing/humanization after laying them down.

All of our stuff, you can hear and download at name-your-price here: http://caraneir.bandcamp.com

 

[HeadCrusher]

Today?

Well, now yes, today.

www.drumprogrammingguide.com

 

[Dave_Syn]

I'm gonna pick it up tonight

Quick question that's sort of related to this topic. When you guys are making your own drumkit, do you mess with any sample restart feature? Like, let's say a snare has a bit of ring/sustain to it. If you play it fast enough you'll get some build up. Maybe some kind of sample-restart feature could help with that, especially if you could select a variable decay type thing.

 

[HeadCrusher]

Not sure I got what you meant be that. :-/

 

[exoslime]

I'm gonna pick it up tonight

Quick question that's sort of related to this topic. When you guys are making your own drumkit, do you mess with any sample restart feature? Like, let's say a snare has a bit of ring/sustain to it. If you play it fast enough you'll get some build up. Maybe some kind of sample-restart feature could help with that, especially if you could select a variable decay type thing.

thats a good point, to be honest, i dont know how sample librarys like EZ Drummer, Superior or Slate handle this or if they even take care of.
BUT there is 8Dio ZEUS drummer whos has its own "flow technologie" that should take care of exactly this behavor amongst of other kind of things. but from what i know, at ZEUS it should only affect the hihat and cymbal sounds

 

[Machinated]

This was done with Drumkit from Hell (skip to 1:40)

[youtube]kdYTLOEaCek#t=102[/youtube]

Could not program that well if my life depended on it.

doesn't sound anything like a real drummer to me....

 

[HeadCrusher]

Well, now yes, today.

www.drumprogrammingguide.com

Minor PayPal issues resolved if anyone tried to get it in the meantime. Purchase should work fine again.