The underground vs the semi-mainstream. As a promoter, all I can say is "ouch" regardless of perception.
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Barge to Hell vs. Mayhem Festival Cruise
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AeonicSlumber
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To be honest, I'm curious to see how the Mayhem one does. Barge To Hell is put on by the dude who does 70,000 tons, he already has a pool of people who would potentially be interested and this way the next 70,000 tons doesn't sell out immediately due to repeats and new blood can come in. It's actually kind of a brilliant idea.
Mayhem however is a touring festival, and while the collective audience of Mayhem is greater than 70,000 Tons' by a huge margin, most of Mayhem's demographic is kids. This demographic has an extremely limited disposable income, may not see the point in a destination festival or a cruise, may not have a schedule that permits them to go to this due to school as opposed to the touring festival which is in the summer. The fact that all of these bands tour regularly (with the exception of Kingdom of Sorrow) does not help either. That being said, considering Mayhem's collective audience yearly is probably somewhere between 50 and 100 k, filling a 2,000-person capacity cruise shouldn't be super difficult. But who knows. What I am almost sure of is that most of the people who will go to Barge To Hell or 70,000 tons probably won't get swayed out of it by Mayhem and vice versa.
Mayhem however is a touring festival, and while the collective audience of Mayhem is greater than 70,000 Tons' by a huge margin, most of Mayhem's demographic is kids. This demographic has an extremely limited disposable income, may not see the point in a destination festival or a cruise, may not have a schedule that permits them to go to this due to school as opposed to the touring festival which is in the summer. The fact that all of these bands tour regularly (with the exception of Kingdom of Sorrow) does not help either. That being said, considering Mayhem's collective audience yearly is probably somewhere between 50 and 100 k, filling a 2,000-person capacity cruise shouldn't be super difficult. But who knows. What I am almost sure of is that most of the people who will go to Barge To Hell or 70,000 tons probably won't get swayed out of it by Mayhem and vice versa.
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Diabolik
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but these are not the types who travel for shows or would even consider going on a cruise to see bands play. Most of the people who go to the Mayhem festival are the types that go to mosh and drink. I would love to see that cruise ship with a pit and if someone accidentaly got crowd surfed overboard.
AngraRULES
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Most people who go to Mayhem stand in the back or sit in the seats. Pitters are a minority.
For my tastes, the Barge to Hell is a far better lineup.
For my tastes, the Barge to Hell is a far better lineup.
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I think the pool of Mayhem folks is probably closer to 200-300K. You figure 10-15k per show on a 20-30 show run.
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AngraRULES
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Why, you like getting screwed? Lol Triton didn't even take place and as far as I know some people are still waiting on refunds...
I know I never saw my money again... My buddy got a partial refund about a year after the cancellation.
Jasonic
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You know I wanted to go see an amazing festival this year for holidays and I'm giving myself a Christmas present early. I looked into both BARGE TO HELL and the Mayhem cruise. And as much as I like L of G the line up is pretty weak in comparison to BARGE TO HELL! When I was calling both cruises I came to my decission to book with BARGE TO HELL for one BEHEMOTH was on board and the other and main selling point for me was on the BARGE TO HELL cruise there are NO VIP sections of the ship. Mayhem expects me to buy a package on top of my ticket so I can get into areas where the bands would be. That to me is BS.
I have a couple of buddies who went on 70000TONS OF METAL and they said they had full reign of the ship. They could go anywhere the bands went and the bands hung out and partied with the fans the entire cruise. Now I am more of a Death Metal fan so BARGE TO HELL is more my thing and will be partying with as many bands as I can and wont pay a cent extra just so I can.
I have a couple of buddies who went on 70000TONS OF METAL and they said they had full reign of the ship. They could go anywhere the bands went and the bands hung out and partied with the fans the entire cruise. Now I am more of a Death Metal fan so BARGE TO HELL is more my thing and will be partying with as many bands as I can and wont pay a cent extra just so I can.
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LOL at the Mayhem Cruise. There are seats for the shows, and those who paid for the big suites get a better seat. If it didn't fail automatically based on that segregation, Korn and Slipknot as DJs are being marketed as a selling point. I'm sure it will draw a certain crowd, and I'm also certain I wouldn't go on a ship for free with that crowd.
Been on 70k both times; fantastic.
Been on 70k both times; fantastic.
AngraRULES
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The whole seating concept is stupid for the Mayhem Cruise. I cant believe that they are putting on a metal cruise and expect people to have designated seating arrangements. REALLY? I mean are the rich people upfront going to get all pissy when someone crowd surfs on their heads? MALAME Cruise is a more suited title for the Cruise.
Justin G
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Yeah, I can see the captain committing suicide at a Doom cruise...
Hitting icebergs is actually a selling point.
Jasonic
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Back to the original post by Glen.
Glen, I am not sure what you meant by "ouch"
The Barge to Hell is an amazing lineup for that genre.
The Mayhem one offers absolutely nothing unique or exciting.
Glen, I am not sure what you meant by "ouch"
The Barge to Hell is an amazing lineup for that genre.
The Mayhem one offers absolutely nothing unique or exciting.
AngraRULES
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Jason, just because you don't like the bands on it, it doesn't make the lineup bad. You might not be excited about it, but I'm sure there's fans who are going to be.
Also, I think the audiences aren't necessarily the same. I'd say that the majority of people who attend Mayhem don't really know at least 60% of the Barge to Hell lineup..
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