I agree with Schism, VE is not the best cd ever but its definently one of the tops in my eyes. Dark Side of the moon, from pink floyd an increddible cd...possibly next to Lateralus(tool) & Terria(devin Townsend) thee best cd ever. I personally think alot of people miss out on great music because their inability to have any kind of attention span. Usually songs over 5 minutes are considered lengthy to these people.