Best 'Decapitated' Album

[Bruticus]

There. Simple little thread, everyone on the forum (many at least) can contribute their own opinion.
Which Decapitated album is the best iyo ? AND WHY - nobody's interested in just reading album titles.


So Organic Hallucinosis for me by a substantial distance. Will read some replies first then will offer my defense for this album.

 

[jimmy101]

Nihility for mine. Absolutely savage from cover to cover with truly sublime song writing.

Organic Hallucinosis is an incredible album to. Real shame what happened to the vocalist from that record, I was really digging the direction they were heading on that album.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Winds of Creation by far. One of the best death metal albums of all time and completely shits on the rest of their discography.

 

[jimmy101]

Dunno if it completely shits on Nihility though. Those two albums are basically brothers, very similar.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Those two albums are basically brothers, very similar.

umm when was the last time you listened to those albums? One is completely blitzkrieging death metal while the other one is almost completely mid-paced. They are very different albums. Don't get me wrong, i like Nihilty(a 4/5 album for me) but Winds of Creation is a masterpiece that's on a whole 'nother level. A level that they never came close to touching again

 

[jimmy101]

Nihility still has its blitzkrieg moments, perhaps not as high of a percentage as WOC, but the overall mood & style of the album as very similar to their debut. The Negation is the album when they went more mid-paced.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

but the overall mood & style of the album as very similar to their debut.

lol no, it's not. Not even in the slightest tbh, and i'm a HUGE fan of the band.

And they went FULL mid-paced with The Negation. And i still like it btw.

 

[jimmy101]

What do you believe are some of the fundamental differences between the two?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... the speed/tempo, unrelenting barbarity and just the overall sound of those album are almost completely different. Winds of Creation is basically technically inclined old school death metal savagery that never slows down.

Again, dont get me wrong im a HUGE fan of Nihilty and it's my second favorite Decapitated album. But they definitely are not "very similar"

 

[jimmy101]

... the speed/tempo, unrelenting barbarity and just the overall sound of those album are almost completely different. Winds of Creation is basically technically inclined old school death metal savagery that never slows down.

Again, dont get me wrong im a HUGE fan of Nihilty and it's my second favorite Decapitated album. But they definitely are not "very similar"

There's still plenty of high-tempo/barbaric tracks on Nihility, just not as many as what there is on WOC. Sure, some things appear on Nihility that aren't present on WOC, but The Negation is the album that marks the emergence of a genuine shift in Decap's sound. The riffwork is of the same ilk as WOC. If you had to compare Nihility to WOC & The Negation, it would lean much closer to their debut.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

The riffwork is of the same ilk as WOC.

im sorry but i completely disagree with you here brother

If you had to compare Nihility to WOC & The Negation, it would lean much closer to their debut.

i completely agree with you here brother. Still doesn't make them "very similar" though. Completely different albums imo, and that's one of the best part about the band ... they always went different places with their sound and still fucking ruled.

Are you a fan of their last few albums?

 

[Bruticus]

Organic Hallucinosis for me because:
There's plenty of alternating between very technical and simpler passages that make for a terribly catchy and fluent ensemble. For eg on Post-Organic, they seamlessly go from shredding destruction to a slower power chord groove with gusto on the chorus. Then right into that dark trans-enducing section at the middle based on one root note, very rare and adventurous for death metal. They seem to be more in control and more mature with their song-writing where in the earlier albums they were nonstop full-on technical, manage the songs better here with all that experience. There's more variation and tightness in the song-writing. They'll go for a giant ominous theme, then right into full blastbeat anarchy, then a powerful groove, and then into maybe a lightly-distorted arpeggio. They look for song-writing coherence first rather than cram a ton of dizzying riffs into each track as before.

The instrumentalists seem to be at the top of their craft: Vitek puts in one HELL of a shift, full of solo-riffs on the drums, tons of impressive fills and makes the drums go their own way rather than just being a mere support for the guitars. Vogg shows a rich repertoire he hadn't shown earlier and switches smoothly between all his weapons. The bass sounds great in the mix with a few metallic grinds adding to the industrial atmosphere. There are interesting samples occasionally added here and there to add texture.

Spheres of Madness for e.g. was a nice track, but sounds very shallow and immature compared to anything off Hallucinosis. So much more gratuitous and just that one layer. A few kids discovering they like the diminished arpeggio scale a lot (which makes up about 66% the song). Very thin and beginner-like compared to the stuff on this here. Organic has an added dimension to its sound.

The sound and production are more ripe, fuller in the sound, and I'd make the argument it's much more intense than the previous ones as the dystopian bleak atmosphere that shrouds the whole album brings Decapitated to a new level, almost like the philosophical horror-film adult incarnation of the band, and they manage to raise the song-writing quality up to this ambitious post-apocalyptic concept.
I can't find a song from previous albums that destroys everything in its path like "Post-Organic", or many that kicks your ass like "Day 69" or "Poem about an Old Prison Man".

I mean listen to the first 2:30 of this :


Go get me a song with as much variation, oomph and maturity in the song-writing in just about 2min from older records.

 

[jimmy101]

Are you a fan of their last few albums?

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I actually haven't listened to anything post-Carnival is Forever. That album kinda threw me off a bit. Not that it was bad, but it just seemed to me their death-metal run was over. Would you recommend either of their most recent couple of albums?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

i know i'm in the minority here, but i personally would take both Carnival is Forever and Blood Mantra over OH. The high points on those albums are much stronger imo.

 

[jimmy101]

i know i'm in the minority here, but i personally would take both Carnival is Forever and Blood Mantra over OH. The high points on those albums are much stronger imo.

I'll give them a spin then. I actually haven't listened to the band for years. You asked me earlier when was the last time I listened to their stuff, and the answer would probably be when I was in my mid-20s smoking bongs and pumping their shit.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I actually haven't listened to anything post-Carnival is Forever. That album kinda threw me off a bit. Not that it was bad, but it just seemed to me their death-metal run was over. Would you recommend either of their most recent couple of albums?

they changed it up quite a bit again, not sure if you'll dig it if you're looking for straight forward dm






@1:00+ <3

 

[jimmy101]

Yeah I've heard Carnival. I'm not exclusively into straight-up DM, so there's a good chance I'll like them. In fact, for me at least, DM is all about being experimental & abstract. Straight-up DM gets boring after a while, mainly cause the old-school bands have already done it and are untouchable.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Yeah I've heard Carnival. I'm not exclusively into straight-up DM, so there's a good chance I'll like them. In fact, for me at least, DM is all about being experimental & abstract. Straight-up DM gets boring after a while, mainly cause the old-school bands have already done it and are untouchable.

yeah im somewhat on the same page, i love all the other subgeners of death metal, especially the more experimental stuff like technical/progressive death metal. Have you heard the new Alkaloid? You should definitely give that one a shot.

Some more "modern" bands still kill it when it comes to the old school sounding stuff, like Cist for example. Some of the older guys like Vader, Master, etc are still releasing some solid stuff too.

 

[jimmy101]

yeah im somewhat on the same page, i love all the other subgeners of death metal, especially the more experimental stuff like technical/progressive death metal. Have you heard the new Alkaloid? You should definitely give that one a shot.

Some more "modern" bands still kill it when it comes to the old school sounding stuff, like Cist for example. Some of the older guys like Vader, Master, etc are still releasing some solid stuff too.

I came from a jazz background and got into metal a bit later in life than most people. One of the things that attracted me to metal (DM in particular) was the fact that it is so creative & the song structures are really far away from the norm. Any form of music that is unusual will interest me most of the time. Because of my late start, in comparison to most of the other posters on this forum, I don't have such a wide collection of metal bands that I listen to. So one really good thing about having joined this forum is that I'm being introduced to some quality stuff regularly.

Is the new Alkaloid album, is that the one you posted in np? I'll give it a listen for sure, as I haven't heard it. I don't listen to much modern metal, not that I'm closed off to it, it's just you have to wade through a lot of shit before you find something decent. Even then, a fair chunk of it is just rehashed ideas from decades ago.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

So i take it you're a huge fan of Elements and Spheres?

yeah i think you'll definitely dig Alkaloid. Also, you should give Cosmogensis and Omnivium from Obscura a go to while you're at it. JPT is a bass god that bleeds jazz fusion and is the master of the 7-string fretless.

Oh and you're probably already familiar with Obscura from Gorguts, but if not it is basically the most quintessential album when it comes to experimental death metal brainfuckery. An absolute masterpiece.