Burzum (Varg Vikernes): Moron or a hero?

[~UlvedaL~]

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Complete bullshit... the kind of attitude that leads to Nazi ideals
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Well, I guess Varg is a Nazi, and I´d like to state that I dont feel sympathy for them (the nazis)...! But I agree in his opinions about immigrants -legal as illegal, is a thread to the arian race.. Statistiks shows, that if it continiues this way; no "true" arian is left in 5-10 generations, and that is bad... It could have been africans too -and bad it would still be, but now it is the germanien race, and because some silly neo-nazists beats up negros and claim supremacy, I dont think you should forget the racial differences that really is... It´s like to extinct the siberian tiger, and dont give a fuck because there is other tigers!!! I dont now how to explain, but something must be done.. If some of you are scandinavian, the problem is obviously... Ghettos is sprouding out... Rapes, violence and so on are mainly caused by immigrants... It could be bad integration, I dont know, but its not good!

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No, he is short sighted and has not researched any of the major religions enough to rule them out..
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Obviously You have not red any of his books, where he compare facts and actions about almost any religion and out-look on live very intteligent...

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afterwards he claimed he never used satanic imagery etc. when he blatantly did..
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I dont know what you are refering to; please explain....


No offence...
No sympathy for nazis....
This is just my opinion....

 

[Russell]

Originally posted by ~UlvedaL~
Well, I guess Varg is a Nazi, and I´d like to state that I dont feel sympathy for them (the nazis)...! But I agree in his opinions about immigrants -legal as illegal, is a thread to the arian race..

Why is this such a problem?? Its bound to happen anyway...

Rapes, violence and so on are mainly caused by immigrants... It could be bad integration, I dont know, but its not good!

Then, maybe if they were treated better they wouldn't need to commit cromes I don't know about your area of the world, but the major causes of crim here are poverty and the homeless, not immigrants

Obviously You have not red any of his books, where he compare facts and actions about almost any religion and out-look on live very intteligent...

I have read parts where he compares christianity and paganism. I have never heard of him say anything about Islam, Judaism (apart from buirn them..) Buddhism etc. etc.

I dont know what you are refering to; please explain....

His interviews in Lord of Chaos, he has changed his story and beliefs greatly since that kerrange expose

 

[Lutz]

Neither moron or hero really.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Originally posted by ~UlvedaL~

Salamurhaaja- Here´s a gem:
"Rasisme er ikke fremmedfrykt, eller hat, eller et mindreverdighetskompleks. Det er et tegn på åndelig sunnhet og kjærlighet til seg selv og sin egen rase!"

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"Racism is not fear of strangers, hate, or inferiority complexes. It is a sign of spiritual health and love to oneself and ones race.."

And you actually believe this shit?
You my friend are even more stupid than I thought.
And um, he's not a racist you say? Did you read that quote you just posted? If that is not racist, what is?

 

[~UlvedaL~]

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Then, maybe if they were treated better they wouldn't need to commit cromes I don't know about your area of the world, but the major causes of crim here are poverty and the homeless, not immigrants
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In Denmark we have a social network which protects the weak ones in society, the handicaps, the trouplemakers and immigrants... My grandma must pay her own medicine if she wants to live, while Ali (a discussed case in Denmark), gets over a million a month for doing nothing!!! Money for both of his wifes! Money for his 11 children and of course(?) for himself... If that dont suck I really dont know!!!


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And you actually believe this shit?
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- No, I have stated that I dont feel the same or have any kind of sympathy for neo-nazis and Vargs ideas... I just compared his opinions to mine as mentioned somewhere else...


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And um, he's not a racist you say? Did you read that quote you just posted? If that is not racist, what is?
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- The quote speaks for itself!!!

Besides, its people like you who invented the racism!!! The word racism is made up by some anti-facists, so if the quote isn´t the basic elements I really dont know! You´re the ones who make him a racist!


I didn´t vote hero or moron in the first place!!! I just said: DONT DOUBT HIS INTELLIGENCE!! And to that I stick!

 

[yourdeadgroom]

Originally posted by ~UlvedaL~
Do not doubt on Vargs intelligence... I bet none of you moron-voters has red any of his books.. If one disagrees with his opinions is another cause, but dont judge people like that! it makes you the real moron!!!

He burnt down churches, and murdered someone.

Yes people, he's really NOT a moron. Honest.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Oh, damn I just realized, Ulvedal is from Denmark, that pretty much throws everything he say into a totally new perspective

But back on the subject of racism, he is the one making himself a racist or whatever you wish to call hating other people, we are just putting the label on him, since he is one, the actual name doesn't really change the fact he hates everyone but his own race. Which in itself is stupid, since if he didn't like non-pure norwegian blood, he would have to kill himself too and I think that would solve this question rather fast, I am just thinking he's too much of a backstabbing, church burning coward to do the world such a favor.

On the subject of his music, does he really think the keyboard or whatever he plays now, are pure aryan instruments? Um, ok. NOT.

@yourdeadgroom
I am actually surprised that this hasn't been really mentioned before, but hey, wait, he is innocent, isn't he

 

[Russell]

Originally posted by Salamurhaaja
I am actually surprised that this hasn't been really mentioned before, but hey, wait, he is innocent, isn't he

No... it was self defence, obviously

 

[Dakuroth]

He's a whining, immature little arsehole, and I don't care how many languages he speaks..

 

[Metalfreak]

Hate to say but moron

 

[Burning Darkness]

I think he's a little of both

 

[7 Dying Trees]

He's a bit of a muppet. Doesn't take away from him having written some cool stuff, but still...

 

[enitharmon]

In Denmark we have a social network which protects the weak ones in society, the handicaps, the trouplemakers and immigrants... My grandma must pay her own medicine if she wants to live, while Ali (a discussed case in Denmark), gets over a million a month for doing nothing!!! Money for both of his wifes! Money for his 11 children and of course(?) for himself... If that dont suck I really dont know!!!

Then blame your social system, not the immigrants! People always make use of what they can get.

And don't try to tell me that only the immigrants become money from the state for doin nothing! Here in Germany I know more Germans that live from this social help than foreigners!

 

[costas echetlaios]

Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[*evil disco*]

moron bye far!!!!!!!!

 

[Russell]

Originally posted by enitharmon
And don't try to tell me that only the immigrants become money from the state for doin nothing! Here in Germany I know more Germans that live from this social help than foreigners!

And germany takes in the most immigrants - 80,000 a year compared to the UK's 71,000, frances 52,000 and denmarks 29,000 (of which 16,000 are returning danes, only 13000 are asylum seekers/ people moving there)

 

[Salamurhaaja]

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Originally posted by godisanathiest
denmarks 29,000 (of which 16,000 are returning danes, only 13000 are asylum seekers/ people moving there)

I bet the returning ones are mostly people who 1. Got fired from their job for being so god damn lazy or 2. People who think the drinking/drug laws are too strict elsewhere 3. both 1 and 2.
And no I don't think all danes are like that, but most that work where I do, seem to be, I only know maybe 3 out 30 that do their job like it's supposed to be done and that don't complain how hard it is to live here cos of the drug/alcohol laws.

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[DogVomit]

I think he is silly and insane, he makes me laugh. I voted hero for this reason.

I wonder what will happen when he gets out!?

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Originally posted by DogVomit

I wonder what will happen when he gets out!?

When? I would think that is more like if.
But what will happen, I wouldn't have any idea, that depends on wether certain people still hate him enough for what he did.

 

[Russell]

Originally posted by Salamurhaaja
When? I would think that is more like if.
But what will happen, I wouldn't have any idea, that depends on wether certain people still hate him enough for what he did.

The maximum possible term to be imprisoned in Norway is 21 years, so he will be getting out.... unless he dies inbetweeen now and then