Cain's Offering
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Iced Dog
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Our perception of the world has actually been reduced by internet forums. Twenty people in a forum somehow seems like a lot.
I really like this album a great deal for a number of reasons. I have always been a fan of Kotipelto's voice and Jani's playing. Put together, it's a great mix. The songs definitely have a very Sonata Arctica flavor, yet with something different. Timo's voice sounds somehow fuller or richer or something. Not quite nailing it yet. Need a few more spins.
edgeofthorns
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Tryin' to stir the pot a little more there Iced Dog? Claus stated his opinion, I stated mine, big deal.
~Brian~
edgeofthorns
24 Hours Ago...
You're right. I admit that my comment was soley based upon the ProgPower forum. I don't frequent any other music forums, so my opinion was based upon a casual observation. In other words, it wasn't very technical!
~Brian~
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Not your opinion, just your definitions
Okay, I totally understand if it's not the album you were hoping it to be after reading the reviews/comments. That's fine. We all have different opinions.
I was just acting on the word "overhyped" as it really is an "overused" word on forums. To me (and I'm sure most people) the use of it implies that you're visually bombarded constantly by comments on how great the album is, seeing reviews and adverts for it everywhere you look and hearing people talk about it non-stop. I don't see / hear that anywhere. What I find here on this board is a few threads and perhaps 45 posts on the album in total. How that can be "overhype" doesn't make sense to me.
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You hit the nail on the head my freind. Not even just about this topic. People forget that there is a whole world outside this forum and others on the web. My favorite example is a few years ago Manilla Road / Slough Feg were playing Chicago. On another forum you would have thought that this show was going to be huge and possibly sell out. They played in from of like 30 - 40 people. Look at when the line up is announced and people are like....hey! what happened to this band..they had lots of hype here....yeah by 10 people. So the real only overhype you get here is maybe the same people bringing up the same bands over and over again or a discussion that goes on to long on something.
I really enjoyed the Cain's Offering disc. it was refreshing to hear a solid power metal disc. The power metal genre has goen kind of stale as of late and it was great to hear a band play with energy again. I actually recommended it to a guy in the store last weekend and with my review of it to him someone else bought it too. Hey...is it original? no, but that doesnt make it a bad disc.....it has been played many times at my place. I look forward to hearing more.
Iced Dog
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edgeofthorns
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drmetal8
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I heard this for the first time at ProgPower last September, and thought, "Hmm, nice very much like a Sonata Arctica spin-off, with Timo's vocals." Obviously I was in music overload at the time, and not able to really "hear" anything new. I've been listening to this a LOT lately and it has really grown on me - fast. There is much more complexity and interest in the melodies and arrangements than I had originally heard, and Timo's voice, for the most part, is utilized in a stronger, more soulful manner than in a lot of Strato's compositions. I like it immensely.
The first song, "My Queen of Winter" is the mostly strongly reminiscent of Sonata Arctica in rhythm and melody, yet, I can't say it's like any song in particular. A solid, uplifting, fast-paced power metal song - great way to open.
You can hear many influences in "More Than Friends" if you pick it apart, but overall, it's got a fresh feel. Timo sounds GREAT, and I love the instrumental break. Wish it didn't leave that break with processed vocals, but the chorus swings in fast and strong, and quickly alleviates that disappointment. Really like the drum/guitar foundation.
"Ocean's of Regret" starts off with a quirky keyboard riff that sounds almost a little 80's club pop, but the melody is great and the strong guitar and drum entrance elevates the feel immediately. Catchy tune and vocals are definitely in the same vein as "MTFs", but not too similar to be boring. Really like the pace and melody and that pounding, atmospheric instrumental segment - adds a good deal of power. Sweet drumming and guitar riffing too. Some decent edgy lyrics there as well.
The title track is a really atmospheric instrumental tune with a lot of complexity. I thought it was going to just turn into one of Sonata Arctica’s more bombastic songs, but it just keeps building and layering. There’s a lot of sidestepping into different paces and melody lines, yet it never loses direction. Easily one of my favorite songs on this CD despite no Timo.
“Into the Blue” starts out as an emotional ballad, and anyone who really knows me, knows how I feel about emo-ballads. Ugh, spare me the schmaltz.
But Timo sounds excellent, the melody is interesting and it’s very well put together. I really like the guitar solo. It may actually land into the category of “Ballads I Don’t Always Skip.”
Whoa! “Dawn of Solace” explodes out of the gate with blistering drumming that never lets up. Very SA-type song in speed and choral rhythm, but with enough originality in melody to stand alone. Loving the guitar riffs and keyboards. Thoroughly enjoyable power metal tune for any fan of SA , Strato and their ilk.
Nice quirky melody starts out “Thorn In My Side”. Refreshing change of pace from prior song. Really like the vocal lines and sound of Timo’s voice in this one. A little higher than some of the other tunes but that’s what drew me into the Kotipelto style in the first place and it’s done well here; not too high, a lot of range and depth as well. Really catchy tune and chorus. One of my favorite tunes on the album. Can’t help singing it every time it comes on in the car.
“Morpheus in a Masquerade” is another song with a very SA-feel to it, especially in basic structure. Seems a little like “The Boy Who Wanted to Be a Real Puppet”, but the melody has enough uniqueness to it make it stand alone. Also, there are some melody and vocal shifts that give it its own flavor further into the tune. Timo hits his highest notes of the CD in this one, and does it well. His vocals really sound effortless. Some nice background keyboards. Great tune.
Ahh, I really LOVE “Stolen Waters.” Fast pace, interesting tune, solid drums, warm, yet aggressive vocals. Mmm, mmm, some tasty guitar riffs in this one, though could use a little more. Maybe I'm just greedy.
A lot to like in this song. Another favorite of this CD.
And now the final tune, “Elegantly Broken.” What an interesting little song! Very much a ballad-type song, but regardless of what I said before, I LOVE this song. Very interesting, lilting melody that gets in your head and just simmers there, possessive without being parasitic. (Ah, just can’t resist turning a phrase.
) Just love how it’s rendered on piano. Timo’s voice is very warm and rich in this one. Only complaint, is every time it ends, I’m disappointed. Really which they could develop it further; throw in an instrumental break and let me enjoy that tune a bit longer. But maybe its simplicity is a major part of its hook.
Overall, WOW! Cain’s Offering would be a GREAT addition for ProgPower XI, but geez it would suck to have to wait that long. Wouldn’t it be awesome to have them at the showcase this year?
The first song, "My Queen of Winter" is the mostly strongly reminiscent of Sonata Arctica in rhythm and melody, yet, I can't say it's like any song in particular. A solid, uplifting, fast-paced power metal song - great way to open.
You can hear many influences in "More Than Friends" if you pick it apart, but overall, it's got a fresh feel. Timo sounds GREAT, and I love the instrumental break. Wish it didn't leave that break with processed vocals, but the chorus swings in fast and strong, and quickly alleviates that disappointment. Really like the drum/guitar foundation.
"Ocean's of Regret" starts off with a quirky keyboard riff that sounds almost a little 80's club pop, but the melody is great and the strong guitar and drum entrance elevates the feel immediately. Catchy tune and vocals are definitely in the same vein as "MTFs", but not too similar to be boring. Really like the pace and melody and that pounding, atmospheric instrumental segment - adds a good deal of power. Sweet drumming and guitar riffing too. Some decent edgy lyrics there as well.
The title track is a really atmospheric instrumental tune with a lot of complexity. I thought it was going to just turn into one of Sonata Arctica’s more bombastic songs, but it just keeps building and layering. There’s a lot of sidestepping into different paces and melody lines, yet it never loses direction. Easily one of my favorite songs on this CD despite no Timo.
“Into the Blue” starts out as an emotional ballad, and anyone who really knows me, knows how I feel about emo-ballads. Ugh, spare me the schmaltz.
But Timo sounds excellent, the melody is interesting and it’s very well put together. I really like the guitar solo. It may actually land into the category of “Ballads I Don’t Always Skip.”Whoa! “Dawn of Solace” explodes out of the gate with blistering drumming that never lets up. Very SA-type song in speed and choral rhythm, but with enough originality in melody to stand alone. Loving the guitar riffs and keyboards. Thoroughly enjoyable power metal tune for any fan of SA , Strato and their ilk.
Nice quirky melody starts out “Thorn In My Side”. Refreshing change of pace from prior song. Really like the vocal lines and sound of Timo’s voice in this one. A little higher than some of the other tunes but that’s what drew me into the Kotipelto style in the first place and it’s done well here; not too high, a lot of range and depth as well. Really catchy tune and chorus. One of my favorite tunes on the album. Can’t help singing it every time it comes on in the car.
“Morpheus in a Masquerade” is another song with a very SA-feel to it, especially in basic structure. Seems a little like “The Boy Who Wanted to Be a Real Puppet”, but the melody has enough uniqueness to it make it stand alone. Also, there are some melody and vocal shifts that give it its own flavor further into the tune. Timo hits his highest notes of the CD in this one, and does it well. His vocals really sound effortless. Some nice background keyboards. Great tune.
Ahh, I really LOVE “Stolen Waters.” Fast pace, interesting tune, solid drums, warm, yet aggressive vocals. Mmm, mmm, some tasty guitar riffs in this one, though could use a little more. Maybe I'm just greedy.
A lot to like in this song. Another favorite of this CD.And now the final tune, “Elegantly Broken.” What an interesting little song! Very much a ballad-type song, but regardless of what I said before, I LOVE this song. Very interesting, lilting melody that gets in your head and just simmers there, possessive without being parasitic. (Ah, just can’t resist turning a phrase.
) Just love how it’s rendered on piano. Timo’s voice is very warm and rich in this one. Only complaint, is every time it ends, I’m disappointed. Really which they could develop it further; throw in an instrumental break and let me enjoy that tune a bit longer. But maybe its simplicity is a major part of its hook. Overall, WOW! Cain’s Offering would be a GREAT addition for ProgPower XI, but geez it would suck to have to wait that long. Wouldn’t it be awesome to have them at the showcase this year?
Heavenly Call
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Yes, they would be a DREAM showcase band for me. I can NOT get enough of this CD! Freaking FANTASTIC!
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