Candlelight Fantasia Live

zakk_hate_me_666

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Apr 28, 2004
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The Edge Of Forever
does anyone else hate that they discard the last (and best) couple minutes of the song ? i got mad at live on the edge of forever. then i got a bootleg of the osaka 98 gig and sure enough, only 3 minutes of candlelight fantasia. damn.
 
Do not talk about the bootleg, that's impossible. Instead try to realise the truth.

There is no bootleg.
 
korruption said:
Yup that was fucking retarded... Why they did that I will never understand...
From what I understand it is a technical issue with executing that part live. I think the problem stems from the heavy use of delay in that part and it makes the part sensitive to being played at the incorrect speed. Since they like to play everything fast live, it would be subject to problems. Yes, I'm sure he could possibly use tap delay, but I think they feel it too difficult to pull of live.

Maybe they should consider playing live with a click to control their speed. Then they could do this song in its complete format!
 
Rick Pierpont said:
From what I understand it is a technical issue with executing that part live. I think the problem stems from the heavy use of delay in that part and it makes the part sensitive to being played at the incorrect speed. Since they like to play everything fast live, it would be subject to problems. Yes, I'm sure he could possibly use tap delay, but I think they feel it too difficult to pull of live.

Maybe they should consider playing live with a click to control their speed. Then they could do this song in its complete format!


they play the odyssey. part 7 has some nice delay parts in the verse. mjr just does some sweeping lick to make up for it. just uses similar sounding licks. who cares if it is note for note. just play something fast and play the whole song. i want to hear russ say "plaaaaaay.... the violent striiiings ooof my symphony!!!" and pinnella comes in with a lead!!!
 
zakk_hate_me_666 said:
and pinnella comes in with a lead!!!

There's a shocker. Yep, believe it or not, Candlelight Fantasia is the ONLY song in the entire Symphony X catalog where Pinnella comes in with a lead.

But seriously, I agree that they should play this in full live. If the riff gives Romeo too much trouble (yeah, right) then have Pinnella play it or just trigger a patch. Besides, if John Petrucci can use delay and make it sound good live (e.g. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream), then Romeo should have NO trouble doing so, as well.
 
MorphineChild205 said:
There's a shocker. Yep, believe it or not, Candlelight Fantasia is the ONLY song in the entire Symphony X catalog where Pinnella comes in with a lead.

But seriously, I agree that they should play this in full live. If the riff gives Romeo too much trouble (yeah, right) then have Pinnella play it or just trigger a patch. Besides, if John Petrucci can use delay and make it sound good live (e.g. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream), then Romeo should have NO trouble doing so, as well.

what about absence of light?
 
zakk_hate_me_666 said:
thanks. i didnt think so.

No problem. In fact, they've played all of V live except for the last 4 tracks, which is something I just don't understand. It's like if Dream Theater decided to play all of Scenes From A Memory, but stopped after Dance of Eternity. You'd just think they'd finish it.