Can't understand the allure of Spock's Beard....

[jjmannford]

I definitely like SB, but their lack of a strong guitar prescence knocks them down a few notches in my book. I don't dig Al's guitar tone also. Way too much keyboards at times, but I definitely would love to see them live. Mare, I think Kindness is their best SB CD by a lot, so I would definitely get it. FE is better then I expected, and I enjoy it, but it is not Kindness also. WRT Snow, I have made a great edited 80 min version of it. It is so much better.

FK is another story. Fairly dull long-winded Yes like 70s prog. They sure could edit their tunes, and I would probably like them moreso. Also R. Stolt reminds me of Steve Howe, whose style I do not like. Oh well I guess its my loss.

 

[DTArtstar]

I don't like Snow too much, and I also agree that Kindness Of Strangers is their best. Why does such a good album have such stupid cover art?

 

[The Stormbringer]

FK is another story. Fairly dull long-winded Yes like 70s prog. [...] Also R. Stolt reminds me of Steve Howe, whose style I do not like. Oh well I guess its my loss.

While 70s Yes was always either exciting and energetic ("The Gates of Delirium", "Heart of the Sunrise") or just plain cool ("Roundabout", "Parallels"), most FK stuff is just there. I only dig their heavier stuff (e.g. "Silent Inferno"). Besides, I LOATHE Stolt as a singer, his voice is so obnoxious.

 

[jjmannford]

While 70s Yes was always either exciting and energetic ("The Gates of Delirium", "Heart of the Sunrise") or just plain cool ("Roundabout", "Parallels"), most FK stuff is just there. I only dig their heavier stuff (e.g. "Silent Inferno"). Besides, I LOATHE Stolt as a singer, his voice is so obnoxious.

I like Yes overall too, but I can't stand Steve Howe's sloppy randomness solo style. He is a talent, but can't write a solo (a few exceptions of course). 90125 is probably my favorite of theirs b/c it is just a bunch of concise good tunes.

I used to love Yes before that 'Union' period. Thank God I discovered Marillion/IQ/Enchant... YES fans are the biggest bunch of prog snob geeks (lurps!!), you will ever find. 'Rabin sucks, Wakeman & Howe are gods'. They all mock other bands b/c they believe that YES is much more talented, and they play longer songs than anyone. I remember going to one of their concerts, and before the show I talked with a bunch of YES fanatics bringing up Marillion. They all laughed and made fun of me because I liked that 'Neoprog Drivel' and how Yes is SO much more talented/play real Keyboards/Steve Howe is the best guitarist in the world..... That was enough for me to realize that I matured out of my YES phase. Hey I want to get laid, which I realized that no Yes geeks have a chance of. Star Trek Conventioners -----Yes Fanatics. Strange similar traits. Didnt William Shattner ask them if they have ever kissed a girl?????

 

[Frank]

I still remember when I heard Spock's Beard the very first time. I was listening to internet radio, probably ProgRock.com, which I had just "discovered".

The Doorway started playing and I ran from the other room to my PC to see the title and artist of the song. Soon after I heard The Light (?) and June. I was an instant fan. I bought V, Beware of Darkness, and Day For Night.

I must admit, I was deeply disappointed by Snow. Except for a few spots, I just can't get into it.

I do like Feel Euphoria, although I look at them as, essentially, a new band with heavy Spock's Beard influence.

***TANGENTAL DEVIATION ALERT***

Every time I hear Ghosts Of Autumn I think of Buck Dharma and Blue Oyster Cult. To me (tm) that song sounds like a Buck Dharma tune.

 

[The Stormbringer]

I like Yes overall too, but I can't stand Steve Howe's sloppy randomness solo style.

That´s why he´s more famous for his acoustic work, which is quite awesome. He did have some good solos on the old Yes albums, but I prefer guitarists who are more focused to reach something with a solo, e.g. Rothery, Lifeson or The Almighty Doug! Good thing that old Yes were more about keyboard solos.... Wakeman is God, by the way.

 

[mgirishfan]

I like Yes overall too, but I can't stand Steve Howe's sloppy randomness solo style. He is a talent, but can't write a solo (a few exceptions of course). 90125 is probably my favorite of theirs b/c it is just a bunch of concise good tunes.

I used to love Yes before that 'Union' period. Thank God I discovered Marillion/IQ/Enchant... YES fans are the biggest bunch of prog snob geeks (lurps!!), you will ever find. 'Rabin sucks, Wakeman & Howe are gods'. They all mock other bands b/c they believe that YES is much more talented, and they play longer songs than anyone. I remember going to one of their concerts, and before the show I talked with a bunch of YES fanatics bringing up Marillion. They all laughed and made fun of me because I liked that 'Neoprog Drivel' and how Yes is SO much more talented/play real Keyboards/Steve Howe is the best guitarist in the world..... That was enough for me to realize that I matured out of my YES phase. Hey I want to get laid, which I realized that no Yes geeks have a chance of. Star Trek Conventioners -----Yes Fanatics. Strange similar traits. Didnt William Shattner ask them if they have ever kissed a girl?????

ROFLMAO, Jim!!!!! Toooo funny!

I LOVE 90125 and for years that was the only Yes album I had....I now have a few of their older ones, and I definitely appreciate them, but I don't worship them. I have seen Rick Wakeman in concert and I think he is truly amazing. Steve Howe is fine - I love the acoustics - even though he isn't the 'greatest' guitarist, I like his stuff.

BTW, I now have SB's Kindness on order along with Camel's Camel....should be interesting listens! (It's my first Camel, LOL!)

Star Trek and Yes fans -- gawd, that was a riot....and the Shattner quote too!!!

I gotta ask, though - what ended up as the wedding song choice? Probably not 'Stay the Night', huh? LOL!!

 

[Demonspell]

I have tremendous appreciation for Yes in their most excessive period, but I agree that they are overrated in the prog community, especially by their own fans. That said, they still had arguably the best rhythm section in rock history for a short while.

 

[The Stormbringer]

That said, they still had arguably the best rhythm section in rock history for a short while.

As far as the rhythm section is concerned, I prefer Rush's Geddy Lee & Neil Peart over Yes' Chris Squire & Bill Bruford/Alan White. The drummers always were kind of squashed in the music of Yes, I think. Bruford's work with King Crimson was so much better than what he did with Yes. He is very good, but Neil Peart is Neil Peart and as such he is better.

 

[Tangerine Dreamer]

Best rhythm section?

Oliver & Alex Holzwarth of SIEGES EVEN.

And who dares to mock Yes?
Yes had some bad times, but in the 70s they were just plain awesome. In some way, they took rock music to somwhere where it hadn't been before or since. I'm one of those lunatics who like some of their newer stuff too. (especially "Talk" and "Keys To Ascension"-studio tracks)

 

[The Stormbringer]

Best rhythm section?

Oliver & Alex Holzwarth of SIEGES EVEN.

Damn great, too, up until "Sophisticated", where Alex apparently noticed that his drumkit had a basedrum...

 

[jjmannford]

ROFLMAO, Jim!!!!! Toooo funny!

I LOVE 90125 and for years that was the only Yes album I had....I now have a few of their older ones, and I definitely appreciate them, but I don't worship them. I have seen Rick Wakeman in concert and I think he is truly amazing. Steve Howe is fine - I love the acoustics - even though he isn't the 'greatest' guitarist, I like his stuff.

BTW, I now have SB's Kindness on order along with Camel's Camel....should be interesting listens! (It's my first Camel, LOL!)

Star Trek and Yes fans -- gawd, that was a riot....and the Shattner quote too!!!

I gotta ask, though - what ended up as the wedding song choice? Probably not 'Stay the Night', huh? LOL!!

Oooo, Camel - Camel. Mare, maybe not the most representative Camel CD. They were still developing their sound, and this is my least favorite CD of theirs. Maybe try Snow Goose for mid 70s like prog, or my favorite, the live Never Let Go. Visits all the good 70s tunes, and has the excellent Dust and Dreams played in its entirety.

Wedding Song ----- I will Survive. Hey we are getting ready for the divorce then b/c isnt that the next step. :Spin: Just kidding. Havent figured it out yet. Seriously, getting all this minute detail stuff set (videographer, limo, flowers, cake, etc.) is driving my finance (as I call her :Spin:_) nutty. Thank god their wedding day is the day women live for, b/c us slacker guys would never have the motivation to go through all this. I just sit back and say 'Ya Honey thats great'. At least it shows that I am somewhat interested.

jim

 

[StocktontoMalone]

Best rhythm section in rock? RHCP, hands down!

 

[Demonspell]

I'd have to agree with Stormbringer...Bruford was great in Yes, but his work in Crimson is mindblowing. And Lee/Peart would have to be in the top three, no question.

 

[ProgMetalFan]

I actually don't care for Yes at all... and was bored by them in concert (at least Porcupine Tree tore the roof off the place opening for them!)



I am, however, a huge fan of Sieges Even and their great rhythem section.

 

[mgirishfan]

PMF -- and I see you are also a fan of The Police and Sting --- way cool, dude! One (errr, two) of my faves too!

 

[Frank]

ROFLMAO, Jim!!!!! Toooo funny!
BTW, I now have SB's Kindness on order along with Camel's Camel....should be interesting listens! (It's my first Camel, LOL!)

Let me know what you think of Camel (somehow). Camel is one of my favorite groups. I've got Mirage, Snowgoose, Breathless, Moonmadness, and 2 or 3 compilations.

I've heard the "newer" stuff and like it, but just haven't forked over the cash to buy the discs.

Sadly though, one of the founding members of Camel died in the not too distant past. R.I.P. Mr. Bardens.


Frank

 

[keeper of the flame]

Let me know what you think of Camel (somehow). Camel is one of my favorite groups. I've got Mirage, Snowgoose, Breathless, Moonmadness, and 2 or 3 compilations.

I've heard the "newer" stuff and like it, but just haven't forked over the cash to buy the discs.

Sadly though, one of the founding members of Camel died in the not too distant past. R.I.P. Mr. Bardens.


Frank

I like Camel a lot. I'm going to see them live this month. My favourite albums are Nude, The Snowgoose, Moonmadness and Rajaz.

Btw. Jadis isn't bad either. They've signed up with Inside Out which is a big step forward. However their first album "More than meet the eye" is still my favourite. I like Fanatic as well but it's nothing new.

 

[Jerry]

That's exactly my problem with Jadis - it's all the same ever since the first album. I did buy some others, but sold every one of them, except the first album.

Jerry

 

[DTArtstar]

Camel are great! Mirage is a masterpiece! I just saw them live at NEARFest and they sounded great...you won't be disappointed