Christians demonstrating against a Gorgoroth.

[Satanstoenail]

I bet they totally converted some confused and vulnerable metalheads that night.

 

[CF87]

Gaahl loves the cock.

 

[Caladan]

if you are a satanist, would you go to a church and start preaching in sunday mass? that's just plain moronic. Knowing christians, they would have the exact (or worse) response to this kind of situation as we do. Maybe this just baffles you, but christians usually have way less tolerance towards other people's beliefs than most.

Ps: If you're wondering, no i'm no christian hater. It gets on my nerves that christians project themselves as cute tolerant white lambs and usually forget the first principle they've been taught. Love for others and no judgement.

Haven't seen the video, but were they in the concert shouting and telling people not to get in?

It's still a free country.

 

[Jreg]

It's no fun when they bring signs and loudspeakers and behave all conspicuously to nothing but passersby who will just be mildly amused at the most. It's better when small groups of them go up to the guy with the "Jesus is a Cunt" shirt and start asking him/her a bunch of semi-deep, philosophical questions before making their religious motives blatantly obvious.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

Probably because their music is total shit? That's why I'd demonstrate against them.

haha yeah, that was the idea.

 

[AchrisK]

Exactly. It was badly misdirected motivation.

I doubt you really understand the motivation, though I could be wrong.

if you are a satanist, would you go to a church and start preaching in sunday mass? that's just plain moronic. Knowing christians, they would have the exact (or worse) response to this kind of situation as we do. Maybe this just baffles you, but christians usually have way less tolerance towards other people's beliefs than most.

Ps: If you're wondering, no i'm no christian hater. It gets on my nerves that christians project themselves as cute tolerant white lambs and usually forget the first principle they've been taught. Love for others and no judgement.

Preaching Satanism in Sunday Mass? I think this is a far cry from that. Yes, people have to endure it for the time before they enter the club. But your comparison is ridiculous.

You speak of tolerance, but what do you mean? Tolerance doesn't mean agreement. The word itself implies disagreement. I disagree that Christians are, by rule, less tolerant. People are people. Christianity doesn't teach intolerance, so any Christian who is intolerant is misguided. Now if you want tolerance to mean acceptance of all other views as equal, that's just silly. Most every religion says that it has the truth, and all others miss the truth by varying degrees.

Again you generalize about Christians. They (we) are people. You should evaluate people as individuals, and Christianity based on its teachings. I understand that many people misrepresent Christianity, but you can't blame Christianity for that. You are right, love is to be the #1 commandment and the #1 evidence in a Christian's life, and you are also right that Christians have no business judging non-Christians. But again, Christians are people, and are imperfect.

of course its futile... christianity is a lie

Of course with this assumption, Christians don't make any sense at all.

Haven't seen the video, but were they in the concert shouting and telling people not to get in?

It's still a free country.

No, they seem to just be preaching. I didn't hear the specific concert or the band or the people going to the show singled out at all. It's a pretty short clip.

It's no fun when they bring signs and loudspeakers and behave all conspicuously to nothing but passersby who will just be mildly amused at the most. It's better when small groups of them go up to the guy with the "Jesus is a Cunt" shirt and start asking him/her a bunch of semi-deep, philosophical questions before making their religious motives blatantly obvious.

Anyone who wears that shirt is a poser anyway.

 

[The Creator of Failure]

But... why? The Pope is a metaller, here's a proof

Can't bother to read the whole topic XD

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

Gaahl loves the cock.

Preaching Satanism in Sunday Mass? I think this is a far cry from that. Yes, people have to endure it for the time before they enter the club. But your comparison is ridiculous.

Ridiculous? no, extreme? yes. Both situations you have a congregation of people looking for something, one looking for entertainment, the other looking for salvation. In this video they are preaching, why would that be any different from a satanist going outside a church and preach his views? because here they are preaching outside a concert? please. I've seen plenty of situations before where christians boycott or make a big fuss when people with satanist beliefs congregate (that being a concert, an event or whatever).

You speak of tolerance, but what do you mean? Tolerance doesn't mean agreement. The word itself implies disagreement. I disagree that Christians are, by rule, less tolerant. People are people. Christianity doesn't teach intolerance, so any Christian who is intolerant is misguided. Now if you want tolerance to mean acceptance of all other views as equal, that's just silly. Most every religion says that it has the truth, and all others miss the truth by varying degrees.

I wasn't talking about agreement, I was talking about having the ability to tolerate the point of view of other people.


Christianity does not teach intolerance, but the students themselves do not seem to know that. If you believe people from this background are more tolerant I cannot change that, but my experience has been quite different. Usually a person that listens to metal or lives life on the edge (so to speak) gets judged and some even have the nerve to say you'll burn in hell because of this.

Now if you want tolerance to mean acceptance of all other views as equal, that's just silly. Most every religion says that it has the truth, and all others miss the truth by varying degrees.

Why is this silly? because you say so? So now we have system that dictates which views (in other words, opinions) are acceptable and which are not? now I do find this silly.

 

[TESTAMENTLegions YouTube Group]

all they do is increase album sales BIG time
most people had never heard of Marilyn Manson till religious people freaked out over him
all they did was give him tons of publicity and increase album sales

 

[AchrisK]

Ridiculous? no, extreme? yes. Both situations you have a congregation of people looking for something, one looking for entertainment, the other looking for salvation. In this video they are preaching, why would that be any different from a satanist going outside a church and preach his views? because here they are preaching outside a concert? please. I've seen plenty of situations before where christians boycott or make a big fuss when people with satanist beliefs congregate (that being a concert, an event or whatever).

I took your meaning wrong. I thought you meant preaching Satanism IN a Mass service, like you said. But I guess that's not what you meant.

Why is this silly? because you say so? So now we have system that dictates which views (in other words, opinions) are acceptable and which are not? now I do find this silly.

It is silly to not comprehend that virtually all religions, by their very nature, are mutually exclusive. That is, they think they are right, and that other religions are wrong.

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

I took your meaning wrong. I thought you meant preaching Satanism IN a Mass service, like you said. But I guess that's not what you meant.

Yes, now that I look at it I worded it horribly. Alcohol does wonders to your system .

It is silly to not comprehend that virtually all religions, by their very nature, are mutually exclusive. That is, they think they are right, and that other religions are wrong.

Gotcha'.

 

[Zhou Tai 04]

I doubt you really understand the motivation, though I could be wrong.

Yep, you are.

 

[Belligerent]

Probably because their music is total shit? That's why I'd demonstrate against them.

I'd agree, their music blows.

 

[Evil?]

Their stuff up to and including Under The Sign of Hell is good.

 

[Achtland]

teh look ov love

Black Metal Messiah

 

[Achtland]

If Gorgoroth splits up KING could always be a porn star.

I would buy his movies

 

[Omni]

I'm waiting for Infernus to win his court case, like he probably will. I don't think he has a good chance of releasing a good Gorgoroth album nowadays, but I'd say he has a better chance than Gaahl and King do.

 

[Evil?]

One time at a Celtic Frost concert for which Sahg and 1349 were opening King came out and stood like one foot away from me for the 1349 set. It was a bit awkward.

 

[Achtland]

You should have humped his leg. He would have been pleased.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Of course with this assumption, Christians don't make any sense at all.

its not an assumption its a conclusion based on an evaluation of evidence.