Concerto Moon

[Illavarslande]

These guys are incredible musicians, an incredible listen, and I think it would be awesome to have a voice from Japan on the ProgPower stage. Just a thought. I also know that Metal is huge in japan, but there aren't a whole lot of bands that really make a name for themselves that are from Japan.

http://www.vap.co.jp/concerto/

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

X-Japan is the prog band I always hear about from Japan, even though I don't know their music well. From their picture it looks like when they were together they beat out every 80's band in the hair department.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

X-Japan is the prog band I always hear about from Japan, even though I don't know their music well. From their picture it looks like when they were together they beat out every 80's band in the hair department.

Do you have to throw a dig or negative comment about every thread here? My God, you have something negative to say about EVERYTHING! Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks or it's of inferior quality or anything of the sort. At least when Mattias was trolling around he made sad attempts at humor. You come across as a smartass, know-it-all punk.

 

[Ascension]

Do you have to throw a dig or negative comment about every thread here? My God, you have something negative to say about EVERYTHING! Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks or it's of inferior quality or anything of the sort. At least when Mattias was trolling around he made sad attempts at humor. You come across as a smartass, know-it-all punk.

I second that. And...he's the perosn that thought Ark was power metal...so, you can leave the smart out of the ass

 

[adaher]

I'll throw a second negative. Concerto Moon sounded like a band I would love, picked up an album, and it was horrible. Good instrumentally, but bad songwriting and bad vocals.

X-Japan would be the band to get if they were still active. That would be a revelation to a lot of people. Helloween is a big influence in power metal. X-Japan is another big influence for some of our favorite bands, Sonata Arctica being one of them.

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

Do you have to throw a dig or negative comment about every thread here? My God, you have something negative to say about EVERYTHING! Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks or it's of inferior quality or anything of the sort. At least when Mattias was trolling around he made sad attempts at humor. You come across as a smartass, know-it-all punk.

I always come back to this. I DON'T MEAN IT TO BE A DIG OR NEGATIVE COMMENT OR ANYTHING. It's....FUNNY. You always accuse me of being too serious and uptight, but it's obviously you who are too serious.

That's not funny? It has nothing to do with the music. It's funny, and I have a sense of humor. Even if it has some kind of deep theatrical meaning it's funny at the outset. Same thing with people I like. Steve Vai is a fasion whore. Garm has a vagina beard. It's funny. And I can love their music to pieces and still laugh at funny things. I don't have to be so touchy about things as you apparently do. If it had been anyone else you probably would have laughed.


And I wish you would quite with the "OMG YOU THINK ARK ARE POWER METAL" thing. They're certainly not "prog." Prog is so much a musical cliche and "scene" that it's not even funny. Ark don't really sound like any of that. AND, their base is ROCK. There's nothing classical, there's nothing jazz, even if it's added, their foundation is straight rock/pop. And I connect that with power metal. There's my reasoning. The biggest reasoning I got that they were "prog" is that.....*they change time signatures* and that *no one on the internet calls them power.* I'm just as much entitled to my opinion as you are, and I don't laugh in people's faces every time they make what I consider to be a genre blunder, which is a lot more often than you probably think on this forum.

Summary: I have nothing against X-Japan, and learn how to laugh. I'll probably actually go back and listen to the songs I have again now since people got their feelings hurt over me giving mention to their 80's satire.

Oh wait...I forgot.

IMOIMOIMOIMOIMO

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

So I listened to some Concerto Moon tracks, doesn't really sound like my thing. I'll take a band I don't care for from Japan over a band I don't care for from anywhere else though. Japan is awesome. Well.....except when they suck because they get all the good tours.

 

[rockyracoon]

Do you have to throw a dig or negative comment about every thread here? My God, you have something negative to say about EVERYTHING! Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks or it's of inferior quality or anything of the sort. At least when Mattias was trolling around he made sad attempts at humor. You come across as a smartass, know-it-all punk.

glad somebody finally said it...

 

[Illavarslande]

Yeah, I get mixed feelings from the vocals. I like his voice, a bit, but the Japanese seem to get the overdramatic Vibrato going, wich can overwhelm. But I'd love to see them as one of the opening acts at PP. So far most continents have been represented, and it would be cool (since we obviously have some japanese fans) to get some sort of japanese talent over here. It might be tougher to find a band that would sit well with most of the fans, especially because of overwhelming Japanese vocals. But it would rock to try.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

I always come back to this. I DON'T MEAN IT TO BE A DIG OR NEGATIVE COMMENT OR ANYTHING. It's....FUNNY. You always accuse me of being too serious and uptight, but it's obviously you who are too serious.

That's not funny? It has nothing to do with the music. It's funny, and I have a sense of humor. Even if it has some kind of deep theatrical meaning it's funny at the outset. Same thing with people I like. Steve Vai is a fasion whore. Garm has a vagina beard. It's funny. And I can love their music to pieces and still laugh at funny things. I don't have to be so touchy about things as you apparently do. If it had been anyone else you probably would have laughed.


And I wish you would quite with the "OMG YOU THINK ARK ARE POWER METAL" thing. They're certainly not "prog." Prog is so much a musical cliche and "scene" that it's not even funny. Ark don't really sound like any of that. AND, their base is ROCK. There's nothing classical, there's nothing jazz, even if it's added, their foundation is straight rock/pop. And I connect that with power metal. There's my reasoning. The biggest reasoning I got that they were "prog" is that.....*they change time signatures* and that *no one on the internet calls them power.* I'm just as much entitled to my opinion as you are, and I don't laugh in people's faces every time they make what I consider to be a genre blunder, which is a lot more often than you probably think on this forum.

Summary: I have nothing against X-Japan, and learn how to laugh. I'll probably actually go back and listen to the songs I have again now since people got their feelings hurt over me giving mention to their 80's satire.

Oh wait...I forgot.

IMOIMOIMOIMOIMO

If I'm "too serious", then why do I have others agreeing with me? You are indignant, , obnoxious, and self-righteous beyond all comprehension! Opinions are one thing, but your over-bearing sarcasm about EVERYTHING is played to death.

 

[Ruthven]

A strong visual style is pretty common amongst many bands in Japan. I have to admit that most of the music I have heard in that style, including X-Japan, are not my thing (though I hear that live shows are where the strength is). I do have to admit that I like the visual flair of these bands, a trait much lacking in a lot of rock and roll today.

I haven't heard a lot of Japanese metal overall, but I like what I have heard from Volcano (melodic - but still rough - death metal), Loudness (but not the American stuff), and Sex Machine Guns.

 

[rockyracoon]

i recenlty revisited what little Concerto Moon i have in my collection, and although i wouldnt consider it my brand of vodka, they are definitely talented and i wouldnt have any problem seeing them in an opening slot at PP...

 

[kunphyooshus]

These guys are incredible musicians, an incredible listen, and I think it would be awesome to have a voice from Japan on the ProgPower stage. Just a thought. I also know that Metal is huge in japan, but there aren't a whole lot of bands that really make a name for themselves that are from Japan.
http://www.vap.co.jp/concerto/

I've heard exactly one song by Concerto Moon about a week ago, which immediately prompted me to look for their website, but it was down. Now it seems to be back up! I'll have to check them out.

Nate

 

[ReaLM]

First of all, I do not see how Barking Pumpkin's post was negative at all, and I am shocked that so many of you see it as such.

Someone please explain to me how the sentence, "From their picture it looks like when they were together they beat out every 80's band in the hair department." is negative.
It is certainly not grammatically negative, and from the looks of Japan X's picture, they may have taken it as a compliment! (I can completely imagine Japan X saying: "Wow, we really beat out all the other 80's band's hair styles! Thanks, we really tried! All the hours of hair spray and hair dye...")
Like he said, if anyone else had made this comment people would have laughed. It seems to me that Emerald Sword is the starter of the negativity in this thread.

Secondly, I love Concerto Moon and would love to see them at PP. I love their powerful, bombastic vocalist! I think it would be awesome to have a Japanese band at PP. I bet they would be awesome live.

Also, if Japan X influenced SA, then I need to check them out!

Robin

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

First of all, I do not see how Barking Pumpkin's post was negative at all, and I am shocked that so many of you see it as such.

Someone please explain to me how the sentence, "From their picture it looks like when they were together they beat out every 80's band in the hair department." is negative.
It is certainly not grammatically negative, and from the looks of Japan X's picture, they may have taken it as a compliment! (I can completely imagine Japan X saying: "Wow, we really beat out all the other 80's band's hair styles! Thanks, we really tried! All the hours of hair spray and hair dye...")
Like he said, if anyone else had made this comment people would have laughed. It seems to me that Emerald Sword is the starter of the negativity in this thread.

Secondly, I love Concerto Moon and would love to see them at PP. I love their powerful, bombastic vocalist! I think it would be awesome to have a Japanese band at PP. I bet they would be awesome live.

Also, if Japan X influenced SA, then I need to check them out!

Robin

I'm not talking just this thread. Go and check out multiple threads and see for yourself. Also, I'm NOT the only one to notice. I'm never negative about other's tastes in bands and such. I don't rip other bands or people for liking other bands. I never bitch about who Glenn brings because he does work so hard to get it done. How can I be called negative? Just because I'm tired of someone griping every chance they get doesn't make me negative.

 

[ReaLM]

I'm not talking just this thread. Go and check out multiple threads and see for yourself. Also, I'm NOT the only one to notice. I'm never negative about other's tastes in bands and such. I don't rip other bands or people for liking other bands. I never bitch about who Glenn brings because he does work so hard to get it done. How can I be called negative? Just because I'm tired of someone griping every chance they get doesn't make me negative.

I am quite aware that on other threads in the past BP has been quite negative, and I could see how on other threads your post could be justified. However, I feel that your comment was completely unjustified in relation to this thread.
If you really want BP to stop being so negative, you should only chastize him for truly offensive, negative comments, not some silly 80's hair comment. By doing what you did he is probably going to think that people are going to attack him no matter what he says, so he will care even less about what he posts in the future (just my theory). Read up on your behavioral pysch.

Also, I did not say that you are negative. I said that you made the first negative post on this thread.

Robin

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

I am quite aware that on other threads in the past BP has been quite negative, and I could see how on other threads your post could be justified. However, I feel that your comment was completely unjustified in relation to this thread.
If you really want BP to stop being so negative, you should only chastize him for truly offensive, negative comments, not some silly 80's hair comment. By doing what you did he is probably going to think that people are going to attack him no matter what he says, so he will care even less about what he posts in the future (just my theory). Read up on your behavioral pysch.

Also, I did not say that you are negative. I said that you made the first negative post on this thread.

Robin

Perhaps if he wasn't so negative in the first place and so often in previous threads, then maybe he wouldn't be getting singled out now. You reap what you sow. Again, I say, I'm not the only one to have taken notice.

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

I've never criticized Glenn, and as I've said several times since Prog-Power, it's the best run concert I've ever been to, and there wasn't a single band there I thought put on a poor performance save issues that were out of their hands (mix, for example). Glenn does an excellent job of putting together a festival that pleases a large number of people, but that doesn't mean I'm going to constantly censor what I think about certain bands. I don't have anything against any Prog-Power bands personally, or any people here, and I refrain from saying things a lot simply because this isn't my favorite "scene" and I don't really have the same views as the majority of the board. I realize I've been negative a lot of times, but I try to be more positive, even though I hate the whole "It's really cool that you like this band but they're not really my thing and I have nothing else to add because I wouldn't want to have a different opinion on your favorite band" dance. You can say Ulver, Pain Of Salvation, and everyone I listen to are shit as much as you want and it won't bother me. I have an argument to back up everything I say.

 

[rockyracoon]

and I refrain from saying things a lot simply because this isn't my favorite "scene" and I don't really have the same views as the majority of the board. I realize I've been negative a lot of times, but I try to be more positive, even though I hate the whole "It's really cool that you like this band but they're not really my thing and I have nothing else to add because I wouldn't want to have a different opinion on your favorite band"dance.

NOT YOUR SCENE??? You have over 2,500 posts in a little over a year! I don't think I've ever seen a thread here without you in it. Not your scene? Is there someplace that is your scene? Have you eclipsed 5000+ posts on an Ulver thread somewhere? And hating the whole "It's really cool that you like this band but they're not really my thing..." dance comes down to a very simple concept: TOLERANCE/RESPECT. It's not suprising to me you hate that "dance" because you're what, 15/16? Not necessarily your fault, but you certainly show your age with a comment like that. The older you get, the more you learn to accept other points of view, rather than trying to be the little wise ass with the smart ass remark all the time.

That being said, I'm going to go listen to some Concerto Moon...

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

NOT YOUR SCENE??? You have over 2,500 posts in a little over a year! I don't think I've ever seen a thread here without you in it. Not your scene? Is there someplace that is your scene? Have you eclipsed 5000+ posts on an Ulver thread somewhere? And hating the whole "It's really cool that you like this band but they're not really my thing..." dance comes down to a very simple concept: TOLERANCE/RESPECT. It's not suprising to me you hate that "dance" because you're what, 15/16? Not necessarily your fault, but you certainly show your age with a comment like that. The older you get, the more you learn to accept other points of view, rather than trying to be the little wise ass with the smart ass remark all the time.

That being said, I'm going to go listen to some Concerto Moon...

Well spoken, my friend!