This article sums up a lot of concerns regarding how much liberty should be allowed to people, if the result of that liberty is the ruination of society and the path to misery for everyone.
What do you all think of it? Is it right that people's fun should be spoiled by other people who warn us of the price to be paid for being irresponsible?
Personally, I have been won around to this way of thinking although I had not always realised that it really could matter as much as it does. No man is an island - and we all have to think about the cumulative effect of individual behaviour.
What do you all think of it? Is it right that people's fun should be spoiled by other people who warn us of the price to be paid for being irresponsible?
Personally, I have been won around to this way of thinking although I had not always realised that it really could matter as much as it does. No man is an island - and we all have to think about the cumulative effect of individual behaviour.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/traditional_values.htmlBefore one can intelligently discuss sexual policy, one must dispell the great myth of our age. People often ask, "why can't we just say that anything consenting adults do is OK?" Well, it's not OK because it has a long list of negative consequences:
1. Sexually-transmitted diseases are no joke. Thanks to them, the average life-expectancy of a gay man is now 40, compared to 71 for all men. Something like 20% of British women aged 25-30 are sterile because of STDs.
2. Making "consenting adults" the standard means polygamy, bestiality, prostitution and God-knows-what-else must be accepted, in the long run. One cannot endorse an idea that leads logically to this conclusion and expect that conclusion not to be reached when lust, money, and liberalism will be straining to reach it. So unless we want brothels to be as common and as public as Tesco, there have to be some limits.
Some people suggest that such things are acceptable in private but not in public, but this solution will not work. It is unrealistic to expect that we can accept such things in private but condemn them in public, because allowing people to do these things in private results in the formation of interest groups that will then demand public acceptance. And if people get used to seeing such things in private, the shock of seeing them in public will wear off and they will cease to care.
3. Tolerating "anything between consenting adults" will not lead to a libertarian paradise, but:
a. For the underclass, it will produce a wasteland of broken homes, fatherless children, and mindless couplings. See Theodore Dalrymple's Life at the Bottom:
b. For everyone else, it will produce an emotionally cruel social order which provides superficial pleasures for the rich and the pretty at the expense of misery for everyone else. It will culturally and socially disenfranchise the old and push the young into premature maturity.
c. It will cause young people to waste their 20's chasing short-term flings rather than getting married, and when they finally figure out that this is a recipe for unfulfilled lives and continual heartbreak, they'll be in their early 30's and half of them will not be able to establish stable households before female fertility declines.
4. A sexual order whose central concept is "consenting adults" will by definition be very selfish towards persons who are not adults, i.e. children. The easy availability of extra-marital sex encourages divorce and makes the children of the partner's previous marriages or cohabitations into nuisances. It will result in a ruthlessly adult-centric social order in which children are degraded, ignored, and not raised properly.
5. Making "consenting adults" the rule undermines social cohesion by making everyone into a sexual competitor to everyone else. The most ordinary recreational or civic organizations will suffer and the whole tone of life poisoned. Furthermore, because this makes innocent flirting not so innocent, it actually produces a de-eroticized culture with the coldness of Dangerous Liaisons.
6. Accepting the sexual revolution means conceding that traditional British culture was as stupid as Tony Blair thinks it is. It means admitting the left was correct. It means giving up one of the best cultural sticks we have to beat the liberal establishment with. And accepting polygamy means giving up one of the best politically-correct cultural sticks we have to beat Islam with.
7. A certain sexual self-restraint has long been part of the culture of Britain and was, in my view, a source of national greatness as male sexual energy was channelled into other pursuits and female sexual energy into the family. Can it really be an accident that our zenith of national greatness coincided with Victorian sexual restraint, and that Rome's decline set in just about the time orgies became fashionable?