D&D 4th Edition

[Cheiron]

These are the RPGs I recall playing:

Dungeons and Dragons (I'm sorry but the ability to become a god was classic. Why this was dropped in later versions I'm not sure. Maybe.... there are some 'expansion packs' that allowed it..dunno)

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2.0 & 3.0

Cyberpunk (loved it...)

Pendragon (returned it soon after one or two times, just didn't do much for the group)

Vampire: The Masquerade (awesome of course. I tended to play a Gangrel, but would do almost anything. )

Werewolf (I was a glasswalker most of the time, heh. Mostly because I was such a tech geek that it seemed to work well. Brilliant game and system. Nothing better than making a guy who put all his points in things like guns, and martial arts, than to put him in a world where to use those skills would be completely risky). I <3 Black Spiral Dancers

Rifts - One of my friends really loved the system. I have to admit that I did as well. The world felt so rich. All the games using this system were really immersed.

Mechwarrior/Battletech - Yeah this was one of my favorites as well. I really love the battletech universe. I was a huge player of the Mechwarrior video games too, and ultra competitive in Mechwarrior 4. That game is the only thing where I could say I was one of the best.

Star Wars - Fun system at times, but getting adventures that felt right was rare. I was also an elitist during these days "No you can't be a Jedi! You don't have what it takes!"

There have to be more.... but I just can't remember the ones that would pop up from time to time due to some friend picking up the source book.




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Its funny that I talk about this now as a few weeks ago I was out at my parents and found many of my old sourcebooks for AD&D and Vampire. I didn't bring them back with me as they are fairly heavy and I didn't have the room in my luggage for them. But I figured 'hey I'll never probably use these again so oh well!'

 

[Jim LotFP]

I also like what I have read of "Over the Edge."

I've got Over the Edge... the rules are only a few pages (and frankly can be used for ANYTHING), with the bulk of the material describing the island of Al Amarja... totally fucked up shit, and definitely a big influence on the current wave of games.

 

[OrbWeaver]

*rattles dice bag*

and I have three shelves here overburdened with dusty AD&D 1st & 2nd (and a little 3rd) edition material.

I have mostly 3e and 3.5e stuff. But I still have my 2e PHB!



@Cherion: I like the gangrel. Probably because they're one of the few clans that is looked down on about as much as my beloved Malkavians. Well...them and the Nosferatu. Though my Malk enjoyed Brujah, because they were so easy to provoke. Bwahahahaha!

Honestly, when I first started playing I wanted to be a Follower of Set, but the ST wouldn't let me. So I picked a Malkavian.

He soon wished he'd let me be a Follower of Set.

 

[Ruthven]

I've got Over the Edge... the rules are only a few pages (and frankly can be used for ANYTHING), with the bulk of the material describing the island of Al Amarja... totally fucked up shit, and definitely a big influence on the current wave of games.

Few rules...lots of weirdness. Sounds like an RPG I could appreciate.

 

[Rakosh]

BTW there's a movie called Gamerz out there. I highly recommend it.

Watching it now...awesome!! I'm totally geeking out (in a good way!). Love the "in game" rotoscope-like sequences.

"Healing spell!!"

:Smokin:

 

[Creeps]

Bah! Gimme the Elric Movie (if it's done well) any day.

Yup. But I'm a fan of both. If the elric move(s) are anything BUT rated R, they will be full of the suckage.


I loved pen & paper RPGs. D&D, Traveller, Top Secret, Gamma World and Champions were my favs. If there was an online campaign with the people here, count me in.

 

[Pellaz]

Yup. But I'm a fan of both. If the elric move(s) are anything BUT rated R, they will be full of the suckage.

+1


I should probably 'ping' MM and ask him about the Elric movie's status, but somehow I've a feeling it will be the same situation.

I loved pen & paper RPGs. D&D, Traveller, Top Secret, Gamma World and Champions were my favs. If there was an online campaign with the people here, count me in.

Yay for Traveller. The campaign we played back in college, with a terrific GM, really should be turned into a book or a series someday. It was THAT good. (I truly wish I had the time to do it.)

 

[OrbWeaver]

See, I have a problem with the Elric series: After the first three (I believe, it's been awhile since I read them. Also: SPOILER ALERT) Moorecock killed off Elric. But then, MORE Elric novels were released after that, where he is alive and adventuring. But they don't follow anything that was going on in the original three! So I stoped reading them because they don't make any sense. Continuity, anyone?

So if they make an Elric movie, it had better be based on the first novels, and nothing later.

 

[Jim LotFP]

See, I have a problem with the Elric series: After the first three

It was the sixth book, Stormbringer. But these things have been reprinted and combined into so many different editions that I have no idea if it was the sixth actual book or just the sixth book in the edition I first read. But Stormbringer is the name of the story that has Elric's final adventure.

(I believe, it's been awhile since I read them. Also: SPOILER ALERT) Moorecock killed off Elric. But then, MORE Elric novels were released after that, where he is alive and adventuring. But they don't follow anything that was going on in the original three! So I stoped reading them because they don't make any sense. Continuity, anyone?

He's a cross-time and cross-dimensional adventurer, as well as being just one of many incarnations of the Eternal Champion (the other incarnations are also cross-time, cross-dimensional adventurers).

I don't think continuity is even possible with Elric. Anything could happen between the fall of Melnibone and the end of time.

Pellaz here has had an Elric story published in a Moorcock-approved (and participating) anthology, Tales of the White Wolf. From the author's notes:

"Paul W. Cashman
directed Michael Moorcock's international fan club, The Nomads of the TimeStreams, for five years before handing the reins over to some good folks across the Pond. He has served as publications director for America's largest SF convention and remains very active in SF fandom. Age thirty going on seventeen (you can tell by his barbaric musical tastes), Paul discovered the Internet a while ago and has seldom been heard from since. "White Wolf's Awakening" is his first in-genre sale."

He's also got one Cirith Ungol album cover poster simply because it's an Elric piece but I have no idea if he has any Cirith Ungol albums. I hope so. They rule.

 

[OrbWeaver]

Yeah, I have the reprinted editions, so it's hard to tell. In fact, the three books I have are actually compilation editions released for the Sci-Fi Book Club. So I basically have 8 books crammed into three editions.

I think that's right. I don't have the books on hand to check.

 

[Yippee38]

You have to get the original paperbacks with the Robert Gould artwork. I used to wish I had prints of all of those covers.

The newer Elric stuff has been pretty *meh* for me. I like Revenge of the Rose, but I think that's the last one that I liked. I really liked reading Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and that story again from the point of view of Hawkmoon, Corum and Erekose. That was very cool. MM used to be my favorite author. He's still in my top five.

 

[OrbWeaver]

I think Revenge is the last one I read before I said "Okay, I'm done with this series."

I'll have to check once I'm home to be sure, though.

 

[Ruthven]

Call of your angels or I'll make them stay - NOSFERATU!​

 

[Pellaz]

It was the sixth book, Stormbringer. But these things have been reprinted and combined into so many different editions that I have no idea if it was the sixth actual book or just the sixth book in the edition I first read. But Stormbringer is the name of the story that has Elric's final adventure.

You are correct, sir!

And happily, the Ace or DAW editions were published much later with Stormbringer coming last. MM actually wrote it early in his career, and then realized that he'd made an oops.

I don't think continuity is even possible with Elric. Anything could happen between the fall of Melnibone and the end of time.

"It is the Conjunction of the Million Spheres, and all things are possible."

Pellaz here has had an Elric story published in a Moorcock-approved (and participating) anthology, Tales of the White Wolf.

Yeah, actually MM edited the story loong before it was published in that anthology, too. That's a pretty good tale in its own right, including a furtive visit to the McDonalds at Lenox Mall.

From the author's notes:

"Paul W. Cashman
directed Michael Moorcock's international fan club, The Nomads of the TimeStreams, for five years before handing the reins over to some good folks across the Pond. He has served as publications director for America's largest SF convention and remains very active in SF fandom. Age thirty going on seventeen (you can tell by his barbaric musical tastes), Paul discovered the Internet a while ago and has seldom been heard from since. "White Wolf's Awakening" is his first in-genre sale."

Hmm, my musical tastes haven't changed too much in 12 years, have they?

He's also got one Cirith Ungol album cover poster simply because it's an Elric piece--

...and because it was never released by Michael Whelan in any other format except maybe an artists' proof......

--but I have no idea if he has any Cirith Ungol albums. I hope so. They rule.

I do have a few, in both vinyl and CD formats.

They never DID send me that free sticker they promised me when, on a lark, I called the phone number shown in the album and the drummer (Robert Garvin? ...something like that) answered almost instantly. Cheap bastards...where's my Cirith Ungol sticker?

 

[Pellaz]

You have to get the original paperbacks with the Robert Gould artwork. I used to wish I had prints of all of those covers.

I think I have prints of most. They're actually quite small, and pricey to boot.

Now, the old Whelan covers on the DAW editions -- as inaccurate as they were sometimes -- those I love.

It is demonstrably true that my long slide into bankruptcy (many years ago, now) began with my purchase of the "Stormbringer" cover Artist's Proof, at Michael Whelan's table at WorldCon in 1986. It was expensive, but triple-matted, heavy as fuck and absolutely gorgeous. It still is; it hangs in my living room in its green-hued splendor to this day.

The newer Elric stuff has been pretty *meh* for me. I like Revenge of the Rose, but I think that's the last one that I liked. I really liked reading Sailor on the Seas of Fate, and that story again from the point of view of Hawkmoon, Corum and Erekose. That was very cool. MM used to be my favorite author. He's still in my top five.

Sailor is a great story; most of those mid-period Elric tales are.

Revenge of the Rose was good....I'm kinda embarassed to admit that it's a better book than the book that was dedicated to me (and 3 friends), The Fortress of the Pearl, which came right before it.

 

[OrbWeaver]

Tales of the White Wolf is the one that has the story where Elric meets Hendrix in it, right? Stormbringer, Stratocaster.

If so, I have that. That was actually my first exposure to Elric. I think I was 14.

 

[Pellaz]

Tales of the White Wolf is the one that has the story where Elric meets Hendrix in it, right? Stormbringer, Stratocaster.

If so, I have that. That was actually my first exposure to Elric. I think I was 14.

Yep, although I forget now who wrote that story. There were some really good stories, some so-so (like mine), and a couple that were pretty damned lousy.

 

[OrbWeaver]

You contributed to that anthology, Pellaz? Awesome!

 

[Creeps]

Yeah, I have the reprinted editions, so it's hard to tell. In fact, the three books I have are actually compilation editions released for the Sci-Fi Book Club. So I basically have 8 books crammed into three editions.

I think that's right. I don't have the books on hand to check.

I think you're right there. The later books (after Stormbringer) have him in many different time eras. Worth the read though, I enjoyed them. Dreamthief's Daughter & the Skrayling Tree are the titles. I also have one called Pawn of Chaos, but I can't recall if that one is more stories or a compilation of the original 6.

 

[Pellaz]

You contributed to that anthology, Pellaz? Awesome!

Yep, I'm in there.

I think you're right there. The later books (after Stormbringer) have him in many different time eras. Worth the read though, I enjoyed them. Dreamthief's Daughter & the Skrayling Tree are the titles. I also have one called Pawn of Chaos, but I can't recall if that one is more stories or a compilation of the original 6.

Pawn of Chaos is a collection of stories about the Champion Eternal, written by other authors besides MM. I don't have a story in that one, but I did proofread and edit about half of the stories in there. (I might even have gotten credit for it )

As I hazily recall, that collection was slightly better overall than Tales of the White Wolf.