Dave Grohl's Sound City Documentary

It's a nice documentary, however the neve part makes "normal people" go "ah, a mixer, so expensive"

And for some reason, some of my younger friends didn't got the idea about those real musicians back in the 70's and 80's. They could pull things off in a single take.
That's why I don't call myself a musician :lol:
 
Yeah man, I take it all back, I feel the sincerity of that sunglasses indoors look.
 
That's cool, I feel the sincerity of your shirt and pants too.

That's a dud retort and it confirms my argument; I never claimed to be ingenuous but neither can you because you've actively thought about how you project yourself; which is why calling out Dave Grohl for being insincere is pot, kettle, black scenario.
 
That's exactly why I say that you don't get it:

a) sunglasses are a style device - just like choosing pants and shirt or a certain type of guitar. Nothing insincere about it. You don't go on stage naked either.

b) I am not uncomfortable with any of my stuff. Dave Grohl looks uncomfortable to me throughout half of the movie (unlike Reznor, McCartney or Springfield).

Big difference.
 
That's exactly why I say that you don't get it:

a) sunglasses are a style device - just like choosing pants and shirt or a certain type of guitar. Nothing insincere about it. You don't go on stage naked either.

b) I am not uncomfortable with any of my stuff. Dave Grohl looks uncomfortable to me throughout half of the movie (unlike Reznor, McCartney or Springfield).

Big difference.

So the big difference is that you have to maintain a level of comfort with your own bullshit otherwise it's not cool? I think they call that becoming a caricature.

I'd say that you've picked up on a quality you don't like in Grohl because it's one you don't like in yourself and that's that you can't reconcile comfortably with your own contrivances.
 
For the most part the movie made me feel quite uneasy. I wrote up the bulk of the reasons why on Facebook shortly after watching it months ago, and can't be bothered retreading all the fine points, but for the most part the thing feels too disingenuous and starry-eyed for me to take seriously. The one small section where you have Rupert Neve actually laying down some solid technical knowledge is glossed over and made to be a joke, and what's left in the limelight is just a bunch of nostalgia. I actually got angry quite a few times because it was such an overtly obvious wankfest. It was like watching some stylized infomercial with a bunch of people feeding you their marketing propaganda. The entire thing feels like some elaborate ego exercise - an extension of Dave's speech at the Grammies, where he continuously pats himself on the back for making a record the 'real' way, while all of his competitors are cheaters or something to that effect.

From what I've heard Sound City didn't close because big bad digital came along and destroyed it, along with the soul and fiber of music. It closed because it was a dirty shithole that nobody bothered to clean for over 30 years.
 
Nah. It closed because market forces meant it was no longer financially viable to run. Like many studios over the past 10 years or so. I guess if you weren't involved in the place, the doc could come across as a wank-fest. But everyone involved in that documentary was emotionally invested in the business at some point in their lives, and there was a lot of fondness for it.

The only analogy I can make is if the Sneap forum died, and then 30 years later someone did an interview with a bunch of us - doubtless you'd get a similar sort of thing.
 
For the most part the movie made me feel quite uneasy. I wrote up the bulk of the reasons why on Facebook shortly after watching it months ago, and can't be bothered retreading all the fine points, but for the most part the thing feels too disingenuous and starry-eyed for me to take seriously. The one small section where you have Rupert Neve actually laying down some solid technical knowledge is glossed over and made to be a joke, and what's left in the limelight is just a bunch of nostalgia. I actually got angry quite a few times because it was such an overtly obvious wankfest. It was like watching some stylized infomercial with a bunch of people feeding you their marketing propaganda. The entire thing feels like some elaborate ego exercise - an extension of Dave's speech at the Grammies, where he continuously pats himself on the back for making a record the 'real' way, while all of his competitors are cheaters or something to that effect.

From what I've heard Sound City didn't close because big bad digital came along and destroyed it, along with the soul and fiber of music. It closed because it was a dirty shithole that nobody bothered to clean for over 30 years.

+1 I'm glad I just watched it on Youtube. There was nothing in it that was inspirational and I didn't enjoy watching it at all.
 
I guess if you weren't involved in the place, the doc could come across as a wank-fest. But everyone involved in that documentary was emotionally invested in the business at some point in their lives, and there was a lot of fondness for it.

Given that well over 99% of the people watching the doc weren't involved in the place, it might be fair to just say it is a wankfest.
 
I felt like Trent Reznor was the only non-biased person in that really one sided documentary.
It was interesting to see the history, and the sessions at 606 were really cool, but for the most part I had the same feeling I have during a "GUNS kill people" discussion...

Especially Rick Rubin made me go "ARGH!" a few times with his very bold and simplified statements.
 
Trent was the breath of fresh air in that documentary. The guy advocating using both mediums for their respective strengths and just making music the best it can be. A pretty far cry from that secretary who said 'this is where real men came to record'. Seriously - that made the final cut?