De-Esser placement in chain...

[006]

Do you guys use it before compression/EQ or after? Why? Just curious...

~006

 

[punkrockacademyfightsong]

I believe it's most common to use it in the beginning of a chain, everything you don't want should be removed as early as possible, sounds like logic to me.
I use it as early as possible in the chain, but sometimes I track through a compressor so it's not the first thing in the chain anymore then but still works fine

 

[LSD-Studio]

comp-->deesser-->EQ

 

[wishtheend]

Comp > De-Esser > EQ

I say comp first just to balance the levels so the de-esser threshold is consistant.

 

[gorath23]

Comp > De-Esser > EQ

I say comp first just to balance the levels so the de-esser threshold is consistant.

Yeah, I think I was doing it wrong anyway, but using the de-esser after a comp seemed to yield far more consistent...erm...de-essing... than before compression.

 

[Fragle]

well, maybe i'm going wrong here, but let's say i'm doing a highshelf on the vox, thereby boosting those sss and the likes...shouldn't the de-esser be after that, at the end of the chain, to be most effective? otherwise you're de-essing the vox, and then go and do a high end boost, which also means increasing sibilance?

 

[if6was9]

I tend to do it after compression, I find if your comping something it tends to brind out the horrible essy-ness more so I do it afterwards to be more effective,
Anyone got any good free de-esser plugins? I use the blockfish one but often wonder if they're others other there

 

[colonel kurtz]

well, maybe i'm going wrong here, but let's say i'm doing a highshelf on the vox, thereby boosting those sss and the likes...shouldn't the de-esser be after that, at the end of the chain, to be most effective? otherwise you're de-essing the vox, and then go and do a high end boost, which also means increasing sibilance?

no, because the pronounced sibilance is more a result of "spitty" transients than it is a certain frequency range

you wanna smash those shitty transients with your de-esser 1st, which will then let you do some boosting with the EQ without making your track sound like a john mccain speech

 

[ahjteam]

de-esser > comp > eq

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

well, maybe i'm going wrong here, but let's say i'm doing a highshelf on the vox, thereby boosting those sss and the likes...shouldn't the de-esser be after that, at the end of the chain, to be most effective? otherwise you're de-essing the vox, and then go and do a high end boost, which also means increasing sibilance?

I agree. I always De-ess after EQ for this reason. Of course they are part of a specific frequency range! That's why the De-esser works at all.

 

[colonel kurtz]

i worded my reply wrong...of course the "essing" lies in a specific frequency range, but the issue as i understand it has more to do with the transients and dynamics than it does the actual frequency content...that's why de-essers are basically narrow bandwidth multiband comps, and not just an EQ