Uhrm....if i remember correctly, The raper was taken of in another redign after symbolic. Which Chuck gave me a fax of. because it was a fax i basically had to redraw it and while i did, i made a few minor changes and refinements (VERY VERY MINOR STUFF) to little things that aways bugged me about it, like the outline and stuff. then i filled in the scythe and Chuck approved it. Thats basically all i did to it. The reaper was already gone before it got into my hands, but to answer your question, yes, chuck wanted to make the logo a bit more mature so a lot of the cartoony horror stuff was removed. I know the old school death logo is a classic but still think the last version is a lot more ominous looking