^^^^ LOL thanks. Dude, I know what you mean exactly on all those points. The problem is that the band thinks they are all mix-masters and eq'ing gurus. So I do my part how I think it should go, and then they came in and were like "well..." and just started asking for all this CRAP and then it turned out like it did. If the whole mix went how they wanted it, it would be a helluva lot worse than it is, trust me on that.
Basically, they don't understand how monitors work. When working in a flat monitoring environment, you have to imagine a little. Anything that goes on with the monitors, will be amplified in a stereo by at least 10x. So however hard a kick drum hits those monitors, it will hit 10x (or more) harder on their car/home stereo. So the kick drum hits hard as shit on the monitors, then you listen to it at home, and it's just so bassy that it's mud, I mean the click disappears, and there's all those low frequencies that aren't necessary and they just clutter everything up. The guitars have so much low-end that needs to be cut off it's not even funny, but they think it should be there since there isn't a bass guitar. Now, I do agree that the guitars should have added bass freq's to kind of pick up the slack of no bass guitar, but not NEARLY as much as they suggest. The actual snare that he uses doesn't have the exact pop that he wants, so he asks me to add "pop" to it. Only thing I can really do is try to raise some of the high-end freq's...which in turn makes the track clip every once in a while. The toms were mixed like that per the drummer's request, since his high tom is in the "center" of his kit, it starts out like this...tom1 0, tom2 38%L, tom3 57%L, floortom 100%L...which is a fucking joke if you ask me, but again, gotta please the band. Ugh, everytime I listen to it, it makes me more and more sick of it. BAHHHH!
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Basically, they don't understand how monitors work. When working in a flat monitoring environment, you have to imagine a little. Anything that goes on with the monitors, will be amplified in a stereo by at least 10x. So however hard a kick drum hits those monitors, it will hit 10x (or more) harder on their car/home stereo. So the kick drum hits hard as shit on the monitors, then you listen to it at home, and it's just so bassy that it's mud, I mean the click disappears, and there's all those low frequencies that aren't necessary and they just clutter everything up. The guitars have so much low-end that needs to be cut off it's not even funny, but they think it should be there since there isn't a bass guitar. Now, I do agree that the guitars should have added bass freq's to kind of pick up the slack of no bass guitar, but not NEARLY as much as they suggest. The actual snare that he uses doesn't have the exact pop that he wants, so he asks me to add "pop" to it. Only thing I can really do is try to raise some of the high-end freq's...which in turn makes the track clip every once in a while. The toms were mixed like that per the drummer's request, since his high tom is in the "center" of his kit, it starts out like this...tom1 0, tom2 38%L, tom3 57%L, floortom 100%L...which is a fucking joke if you ask me, but again, gotta please the band. Ugh, everytime I listen to it, it makes me more and more sick of it. BAHHHH!
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