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"WHY DAVE MUSTAINE MUST LEAVE THE METAL SCENE" by Dan Lilker for Zero Tolerance Mag

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This is a column written by underground old-timer Danny Lilker (Nuclear Assault, Anthrax, Crucifist etc) for UK magazine Zero Tolerance.

WHY DAVE MUSTAINE MUST LEAVE THE METAL SCENE
By: Danny Lilker
(Printed with kind permission of Zero Tolerance Magazine)

Maybe this is gonna be old news by the time you end up reading this, but that can't be helped. The indignation I feel is current as of mid-May, so here we go...
It seems that Megadeth's Dave Mustaine has had Dissection thrown off a festival in Israel that Megadeth is headlining, and has similarly had Rotting Christ booted off a couple of Greek shows where they were supposed to support Megadeth. Why?? Wellllll, it appears that Dave has found God! Yes, Dave Mustaine says he is now a born-again Christian, and bands like Dissection and Rotting Christ, with their rather obvious anti-Christian idealogies, are not allowed to play with Megadeth now. To me, this is nothing short of absolutely ridiculous, so allow me to elaborate...
Let me get something out of the way first. I'm a pretty tolerant person for the most part, and if Dave wants to follow that particular path in life, well, it's not for me to pass judgement and condemn him. It's his life, and he can do as he pleases IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE. Ah, now we're getting somewhere! The problem starts when it becomes apparent that Dave's new-found values clash with the values of the underground metal scene, and instead of saying to himself "Well, I guess now I'm a little out of step with things", he arrogantly and selfishly decides that anti-Christian bands can no longer play on the same stage as him. The point being, HE is the one that should no longer be playing with these bands, since his values no longer reflect those of the metal scene in general. HE is the anomaly now. Therefore, the more appropriate move would have been to say "I don't think I want to play these shows with these types of bands anymore, so we ain't doing them."
However, the thing is that Dave has chosen to be born-again. Here in the States, "born-again" is synonymous with "evangelical", and evangelical Christians feel it is their duty to save as many souls as possible. They are also extremely arrogant and closed-minded. Now, we can mock the guy from Korn for turning into some bizarre Jesus freak, but to his credit, at least he upped and left the scene he was once a part of and didn't try to stick around impose his new way of seeing things on the rest of his band and their fans. Dave, on the other hand, is doing just that. He's still using his influence as an icon in the metal scene to attempt to prevent bands with anti-Christian and Satanic viewpoints from getting exposure amongst people who want to see Megadeth. That is where the evangelical arrogance comes into play. In some twisted way, perhaps Dave thinks he is saving souls by continuing to remain in a scene he no longer has anything in common with. "What a challenge, to cleanse metal of evil!"
Dave, break up the band, and pursue your new love for Jesus on your own. Leave the rest of us out of it.
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Well, we all have our beliefs. I'm a Christian, and I try not to listen to stuff that calls for my brutal murder. I'd play a show with those bands, but unless they tried to have a civil converstation, I wouldn't associate with them.
 
Uhh, someone should explain to Danny what capitalism is. Dave didn't want people playing on HIS freaking tour that were against his religious beliefs. Since it is DAVE's tour, he could chose to have whoever the hell he wants on it. When Danny has his own tour, he can let whoever the hell he wants play.

And I love the "Well, I'm the most tolerant guy around but..." routine. The best card played by bigots everywhere.
 
I have to agree....It's his tour and he can do as he chooses!!



CatholicSamurai said:
Uhh, someone should explain to Danny what capitalism is. Dave didn't want people playing on HIS freaking tour that were against his religious beliefs. Since it is DAVE's tour, he could chose to have whoever the hell he wants on it. When Danny has his own tour, he can let whoever the hell he wants play.

And I love the "Well, I'm the most tolerant guy around but..." routine. The best card played by bigots everywhere.
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DeMysteriisDomCanuckus said:
Well, we all have our beliefs. I'm a Christian, and I try not to listen to stuff that calls for my brutal murder. I'd play a show with those bands, but unless they tried to have a civil converstation, I wouldn't associate with them.
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this coming from a guy who has a MAYHEM album title name???? (well except one word at least)
 
I think Mustaine should be the singer in Creed. Megadeth ain't done anything worth a fart since countdown and even that one is mediocre at best. Keep your beliefs to yourself you fucking crackhead born again.Lilker is right.
 
CatholicSamurai said:
Uhh, someone should explain to Danny what capitalism is. Dave didn't want people playing on HIS freaking tour that were against his religious beliefs. Since it is DAVE's tour, he could chose to have whoever the hell he wants on it. When Danny has his own tour, he can let whoever the hell he wants play.

And I love the "Well, I'm the most tolerant guy around but..." routine. The best card played by bigots everywhere.
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Perhaps you missed the part where it WASN'T daves tour, it was a festival gig.
 
Yup, Rotting Christ and Dissection were throw off festvals where Megadeth were booked. Probably the (dumb fucking) promotors heard Dave was saved and read about what he now thinks of "satanic" bands and lyrics, (including Daves own). Yhey decided to give those bands the boot. Dave wrote on his forum that he was okey with sharing stage with them, he just doubted he would like to hang with them backstage.

However, if Dave pulled the strings I think he should retire from this pagan, moneyworshiping, devils business.
 
I parody black metal because the sub-genre as a whole tends to take itself too seriously. So, instead of "The Mysteries of Satan," I made it "The Mysteries of the Canadian." I also have a parody black metal project in the works called The Northern Predatory Necrosis of Gorostopholese' Excretia, with songs like "Blessings Upon the Throne of Porcelain," "Buried By Time and Poop," and "Recto-Colonic Wrath."
 
I agree with Dave Megagod those NASTY satanic people scare me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I didnt know Lilker could be so articulate in a interview "$100"!!!??##!!. It is quite amusing I wonder if Dave still wears black!!!LOL..

PEACE BE WITH YOU,PIZZA & CHIPS,BOOZE KILLS THE BBBBRRAAAAAINNN
 
Lord_Of_This_World said:
Maybe Mr Mustaine will stop taking royalties from albums that contain songs like 5 magics and of course the opening line to peace sells:"whaddya mean I don't believe in god".
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And then he says "I talk to Him everyday."

Apparently you missed the point of the song.
 
Once a crackhead always a crackhead.Religion or not. He'll fall off the wagon again and than we'll see who his god really is.I hate born agains.
 
Well, I wish Dave all the best, I sure hope he doesn't fall off the wagon, but maybe he will have an experience that will help him not be so judgemental of others, cause really all he is doing is projecting his own insecurities onto others, or at least that's how this "idiot" sees it, :D
 
CatholicSamurai said:
And then he says "I talk to Him everyday."

Apparently you missed the point of the song.
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Apparently you did.Apparently you don't understand sarcasm.

What do you mean, "I don't believe in God"?
I talk to him everyday.
What do you mean, "I don't support your system"?
I go to court when I have to
What do you mean, "I can't get to work on time"?
I got nothing better to do.
And, what do you mean, "I don't pay my bills"?
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

The whole premise of the song is that the whole system is bollocks (in Mr Mustaines opinion.)
 
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