I just read the Comments section of this from SMNnews
& This guy more or less Nails the Point:
"posted by - nic
It's not the "hardcore scenesters" that cause the problems. It's the stupid ass "hate-edgers" all over the Salt Lake area. And I know, because I live in the Salt Lake area. Sadly, I can actually say that I've seen much worse than that Diecast brawl. The whole northern Utah area is full of hate-edgers. They go to shows in groups, and they pretty much look for fights.
Just to clarify, I say "Hate edgers" because they're different from Straight edgers. There are some kids who can be straight edge and actually not be violent. I happen to be straight edge myself. (Here comes everyone calling me a fag and whatever for claiming sXe)... But I dont buy into the whole violence thing.
Hate Edgers are the reason that so many bands don't want to come through Utah."
All ofd that is true.
I've heard fucking Horror Stories about that place.
I dont know how many of these are real, but here's some I've heard over the years.
A Guy was at a Straight Edge show & was drinking a beer outside the place, or some shit like that & these "Hate Edgers" jumped him, beat the shit out him, & carved X X X into his chest w/ a knife.
& here's the worst one of all.
A Pregnant chick stepped outside to have a smoke. These "Hate Edgers" noticed that she was smoking while being pregnant & they once again, jumped her, & beat the shit out of her, thus killing her unborn baby.
Now once again, not sure How Much of That is true, but I've heard those stories a few times over the years about the Utah HxC Militants