Dirty, thick Wagner tone (think ATG) + settings
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Ericlingus
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What guitar and pickups did you use? What post processing? What impulse and curve eq did you use? Is it the normal clayman one you've been using? I've been stuggling to get a good tone and like your tones a lot. Even when I copied your settings on the last thread you posted, it still doesn't sound right. I have "duncan designed" pickups in the schecter c1xxx guitar. They are modelled after the jb/59 combo. Do emg 81's make that big of a difference? Your tone is more saturated but still clear. It's not as boomy either. I'd be grateful for you help. I am getting annoyed at not being able to get a tone as good as yours!
Hey thanks for your comment and glad you like the tone but honestly I'm a total noob myself though I'm getting better at dialing in tones day by day.
I guess the most difficult thing I had to learn is to "use my ears" and I'm still so far away from being good
But I'm learning, that's why I keep returning to these boards.
However, of course with whatever amp settings someone posts it will sound different with each guitar/pickups/picks/strings/playing style and so forth...
Basically amp settings are just a starting point to take them and see where it takes you...
I had to realize, there are SOOOO many things you can do wrong it's amazing, I now see why it's taking soo many years to get decent results.
There's no "secret" to a good tone, it's all just hours of tweaking and listening but to give some starting points (and I'm sure you already know most of it):
- make sure your guitar is tuned and intonated properly (I know mine isn't quite as it should though...)
- test different pickup heights, especially the bridge pickup (matter of taste)
- use new strings, if tuned down make sure they are thick enough and are not wobbly on your guitar
- use a pick which gives good attack (matter of taste)
- try to play as near as to the bridge as possible
- hit the strings hard (the less distortion the more important) but don't overdo it!
- try to get a good steady input signal, use a pre, DI-box... whatever you have around
from there it's just playing as tight as you can when you doubletrack and play around with the settings as you like
post processing is almost the same as 90% of others do it: some EQ (doesn't have to be curve-eq files), rolloff at 60/12000 and some multi comp to tame the low mids.
It's basically not much of a difference which impulse you use for cab simulation, just a matter of taste which one's you like better really...
I guess the most difficult thing I had to learn is to "use my ears" and I'm still so far away from being good
But I'm learning, that's why I keep returning to these boards.However, of course with whatever amp settings someone posts it will sound different with each guitar/pickups/picks/strings/playing style and so forth...
Basically amp settings are just a starting point to take them and see where it takes you...
I had to realize, there are SOOOO many things you can do wrong it's amazing, I now see why it's taking soo many years to get decent results.
There's no "secret" to a good tone, it's all just hours of tweaking and listening but to give some starting points (and I'm sure you already know most of it):
- make sure your guitar is tuned and intonated properly (I know mine isn't quite as it should though...)
- test different pickup heights, especially the bridge pickup (matter of taste)
- use new strings, if tuned down make sure they are thick enough and are not wobbly on your guitar
- use a pick which gives good attack (matter of taste)
- try to play as near as to the bridge as possible
- hit the strings hard (the less distortion the more important) but don't overdo it!
- try to get a good steady input signal, use a pre, DI-box... whatever you have around
from there it's just playing as tight as you can when you doubletrack and play around with the settings as you like
post processing is almost the same as 90% of others do it: some EQ (doesn't have to be curve-eq files), rolloff at 60/12000 and some multi comp to tame the low mids.
It's basically not much of a difference which impulse you use for cab simulation, just a matter of taste which one's you like better really...
Ericlingus
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for this particular tone what impulse and curve eq file did you use? It helps me when I hear a tone someone made, to get all the information I can so I can try and match it. It's good practice. Thanks for the tips. Unfortuneatly it's everything I already know. Really, it's just a matter of practice. I am new to this and i've been improving a lot.
I didn't use CurveEQ this time. Just some minor EQ at 1k, 2k and 6k like + 1-2db. That's all.
Impulse was BBAC-half from the Guitarhack impulses (the louder JJ ones)
Impulse was BBAC-half from the Guitarhack impulses (the louder JJ ones)
i don't know what the deal is, but i can't get a tone anywhere near what some people can using that wagner plug...
i did, however, just get some killer tones using the following:
ESP H-200-->TS7-->ART MPA gold-->amplitube-->boogex w/ guitarhack impulses
i did, however, just get some killer tones using the following:
ESP H-200-->TS7-->ART MPA gold-->amplitube-->boogex w/ guitarhack impulses
Ericlingus
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God damn you do like nothing special at all and you get great tones. I swear i've used a setting very similar to that and mine tones sound like shit. I need to get an emg 81 pickup( and then find out it doesn't change the sound as much as I hoped and find out that I just suck at guitar) that will help I bet. Thanks for all of your help. I appreciate it.
I have been liking amplitube as well. What amp model do you use on it?
I have been liking amplitube as well. What amp model do you use on it?
Sounds great man. I made a test mp3 with your settings minus the post processing. Also I was using a JB pickup in the bridge instead of an EMG 81. Also, thank you Guitarhack for these awesome impulses (in case you're reading this).
http://rapidshare.com/files/90061843/wagnertest.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/90061843/wagnertest.mp3.html
it woud be cool