Do any of you guys have Popoff's new book, Collector's Guide to HM, The Seventies?

[ProgMetalFan]

looks like another one of those "metal died in 1990 because they stopped playing it on MTV" lists. I wouldn't even consider GnR or AC/DC to be metal.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

OK, but what era is that? Paranoid came out in 1970 and Holy Wars came out 20 years later.

There might be a sprinkling of newer songs in 10 years time, but I'm not sure if waiting that long would necessarily change "Paranoid" being at #1, for example.

This list just tells me that the general consenus with most metal fans is that they still think the older music has yet to be surpassed in quality/originality. I'm not sure if I agree or disagree, that's just the way I interpret the results. I'm also assuming that the 18,000 people who submitted their results varied in all age groups.

Right, that's pretty much what I meant, and I wasn't defining era as a decade either. I think metal changed pretty substantially at or about 1990 or so, and for the most part went underground and diversified. 1970 to 1990 as you pointed out, is what I would consider the "golden age" of metal.

I also do fully believe that because of the diversification of metal, that few, if any, individual songs will ever have the same impact on enough people to ever crack a list such as this. For every 10,000 people who believe "Cold" by At The Gates is brilliant, there are another 10,000 people who believe "Land of the Free" by Gamma Ray is equally as brilliant. And neither band's music will ever be recognized as "classic" as such.

 

[JayKeeley]

Right, that's pretty much what I meant, and I wasn't defining era as a decade either. I think metal changed pretty substantially at or about 1990 or so, and for the most part went underground and diversified. 1970 to 1990 as you pointed out, is what I would consider the "golden age" of metal.

I also do fully believe that because of the diversification of metal, that few, if any, individual songs will ever have the same impact on enough people to ever crack a list such as this. For every 10,000 people who believe "Cold" by At The Gates is brilliant, there are another 10,000 people who believe "Land of the Free" by Gamma Ray is equally as brilliant. And neither band's music will ever be recognized as "classic" as such.

Agreed 100%.

I'd like to see what they used as a definition for "greatest song", and I wonder what the average age demographic was throughout the 18,000? If I were to speculate, most of those people had to have been between the ages of 18-22, and I'm sure the majority of them are BW&BK readers (where Popoff posted his polls no doubt).

Mark - not sure if you ever saw this other thread, http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126341&highlight=top+albums, but people from this forum listed their top 10 albums of all time. Granted, these are albums and not songs, but I would assume that some of their favorite songs reside on their favorite albums. My list comes closest to this top 20 list we're talking about (in regards to bands), but I figured that's just because I'm 33, and certainly in the minority at that age.

 

[BenMech]

Three things:
first: the top 500 ALBUMS book will be here in April.
second: The Monster Records comp has been in my cd player ever since I got the book.
third: I still keep my copy of the Collector's Guides in my bathroom, and end up spending hours going through them. His style may be bad, but his passion is completely on target. He knows what he's talking about, when he likes or dislikes a band. EXCEPT Metallica.

 

[Dark One]

I still keep my copy of the Collector's Guides in my bathroom, and end up spending hours going through them.

Geez, you must really take some massive dumps!!

 

[BenMech]

Nope, It's just a comfortable, quiet place to sit and read.

 

[Dark One]

Nope, It's just a comfortable, quiet place to sit and read.

**Ducks from the concept of "it was just a joke" flying over people's heads**

 

[ScottG]

The Monster Records comp has been in my cd player ever since I got the book.

I already can't wait for the 80's book just to see what great stuff will be on that disc.

BTW, I ordered a couple of Winterhawk CD's. www.cdbaby.com has the best prices along with the most samples of the monster records stuff.

 

[JayKeeley]

Bump - this was an interesting thread...

Well, it only took 6 months for me to get round to it, but both monsterrecords.com and cdbaby.com seem exceptionally cool.

Erik would love this --> http://www.cdbaby.com/about

"No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this site".

Anyway, I'm thinking about ordering me some Legend, Slauter Xstroyer, and Winterhawk.

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Slauter Xstroyes eh ?
Well i have to warn you that they are not 70s, neither 70s oriented (in case you didnt know). Its technical (sometimes agressive) heavy metal with amazing screamy vocals. "WinterKill" can be considered ahead of its time, but i recommend "Free The Beast" for start.
Who is Poppof ?

 

[JayKeeley]

Yeah, I know - that Winterkill album is from 1985. It's just that the particular label (monsterrecords.com) deals with rare, HTF music that was left uncovered, and you can just happen to buy some of it at cdbaby.com. That's the connection.

 

[ProgMetalFan]

CDBaby is an excellent vendor.

Winterhawk is really fantastic.