blue_fAng
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Do you beleive in extraterrestrial life ?
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The logic was based on #1 and #2 being true. I am not saying they are true. I am saying that according to science, #1 and #2 are true. Therefore, one of the two scenarios in #3 must be true.
Though there is the point that you made that an intelligent civilization could have existed that communicated in another form that we cannot detect. This is possible, but unlikely. Certainly unscientific.
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To think and to only base our opinions solely on the knowledge that we have attained living and experiencing in this world is, in my point of view, a big short sight.
To stand here and affirm that "there is no more life in the universe besides us" is absolutely absurd and an acknowledgement to our massive egotistical being. It is so, but so, selfish to think that there need to be certain aspects to harbour life, simply because that is what we experience in this ecosystem, the universe is too much for us to even begin to think that we comprehend it, because we don't, even if you think you do, you don't and the fact that it's so so so so so so big, it is impossible to get into a conclusion, but to simply say "no" to this doesn't make much sense.
I fully believe life exists, it is absurd to even think of the hypothesis of the rest of the universe being a dead one, apart from us.
To stand here and affirm that "there is no more life in the universe besides us" is absolutely absurd and an acknowledgement to our massive egotistical being. It is so, but so, selfish to think that there need to be certain aspects to harbour life, simply because that is what we experience in this ecosystem, the universe is too much for us to even begin to think that we comprehend it, because we don't, even if you think you do, you don't and the fact that it's so so so so so so big, it is impossible to get into a conclusion, but to simply say "no" to this doesn't make much sense.
I fully believe life exists, it is absurd to even think of the hypothesis of the rest of the universe being a dead one, apart from us.
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I'll simply say the odds that we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe seem enormously low. If you consider that a "yes" vote, than count it as that. 
Do I think UFO sightings are real - not sure I'm in that camp, but have a hard time believing we are alone in this great big universe.
Do I think UFO sightings are real - not sure I'm in that camp, but have a hard time believing we are alone in this great big universe.
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i guess the best way to explain it is... my faith in my religion is less god-centered.
lots of jews practice the faith but do not believe a god exists anymore... sounds weird. but it's true.
eww... i ate how all this sounds.
i just don't care about aliens like i do about my faith.
the whole thing about gays and abortion, i mean to say, i do not believe they are wrong... because some people do. that is the inconsistency to the word believe, because they change all the time. i think (in my experience) it is erroneous for me to think the two words are synonymous.
maybe i have had too much coffee today... cause i can say it in words but as soon as i get a sentence down i am 3 paragraphs down in my head (if that makes sense).
EffigyForgotten
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Its pretty obvious there's no such thing as a "god" in fact, this thread even shows some proof of that. Sometimes I can't take religious people seriously AT ALL, they actually think if i'm wearing a Slayer shirt i'm possed by satan (which also obviously doesn't exist)
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actually... the more and more i read this thread. the more i see some of the reasons they believe in aliens are similar to the "rationale" of a person that believes in god.
LeSedna
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The thing is that this sentence is not correct, tell me where science says that there is life for sure, and tell me where science says that if there is life is the universe, SETI would have found it already. None of these are true. The first one is hypethetical, and the second one is just impossible, no engineer or scientist will ever tell you his machine is perfect, because it's not.
Oh and... why is it
1 - unlikely than a lifeform communicates in another form ?
2 - unscientific to consider this possibilty ?
Is it more scientific to say "for sure there is life on earth, it's backed up scientifically" (it's not otherwise it would already be the biggest find in history of science) or "seti should already have seen life" ?
LeSedna
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Believing in god means that you believe in magic. Believing in aliens is not unnatural but it is very much possible that somewhere out there you can find life.
Like I've said, I believe it when I see/hear it. I haven't heard or seen god... I do believe in aliens so yes I've have seen a couple of "UFOs". You see some crazy shit if you look into the sky at times. I know you'll think I've lost my mind when I say this but I know what I saw and I watched YouTube after seeing it and people had videotaped seeing the exact same thing happening.
Bright white lights flying in formation and moving inhumanly fast and suddenly stopping and then going into the sky.
LeSedna
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UFO means "unidentified". Air Traffic Controllers (at least in france) actually get a course on "UFOs", but this doesn't mean "Alien spaceship". This :
Is regularly reported as a spaceship, especially at night. It's called Lenticularis, and is a cloud. Like any cloud it could disappear in the next 10mn (though this one is formed due to wind and moutains, but the point stands still). Just one example. My point is that no matter what you see, you shouldn't jump on the conclusion of calling it an alien spaceship. There is so much we don't understand. So many aircraft get reported by people as "ufo", tricked by the angle they saw the light (which in some cases could lead the light to appear like slow and then woosh super fast, all of it being a trick of angle and change of direction and relative speed + angular speed, for example). So many weather events are not understood yet, some of them are very rare and therefore when you see one you can be very surprised.
Is regularly reported as a spaceship, especially at night. It's called Lenticularis, and is a cloud. Like any cloud it could disappear in the next 10mn (though this one is formed due to wind and moutains, but the point stands still). Just one example. My point is that no matter what you see, you shouldn't jump on the conclusion of calling it an alien spaceship. There is so much we don't understand. So many aircraft get reported by people as "ufo", tricked by the angle they saw the light (which in some cases could lead the light to appear like slow and then woosh super fast, all of it being a trick of angle and change of direction and relative speed + angular speed, for example). So many weather events are not understood yet, some of them are very rare and therefore when you see one you can be very surprised.
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Oh, sorry I didn't know you could insert CGI into my eyes. And like I said, I've seen UFO's. I'm not stating that I saw aliens. Could aswell be some government secrets we have here.
EDIT: This is one experience I have. I was in bed at night and it was dark outside. Suddenly a bright light appears in the sky, I automatically assume it's a chopper. After a while I realize it's way too bright to be a chopper and when I start looking at it, it's moving ridiculously fast. First it's a mile high and suddenly it's like 50 feet of the ground. I wake up my girlfriend to make sure I'm not sleeping or having a medical condition or something. She sees it too. Then it suddenly flies up into the sky. 2 minutes later the EXACTLY SAME THING happens. A bright light appers and flies the exact same route as the first one and disappears into the sky. 5 minutes later finnish military fighter planes go after them. Nothing on the news about any of this.
But I get it 100%. This is not proof of "aliens" nor do I assume anyone will believe it until they see it with their own eyes. It was not normal.
SocialNumb
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Do you live anywhere near a power plant, around hills or mountains, anywhere near anything that would cause a very low frequency hum? (as in you can't hear it)
Do you live anywhere near a power plant, around hills or mountains, anywhere near anything that would cause a very low frequency hum? (as in you can't hear it)
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I've seen UFO's. I'm not stating that I saw aliens. Could aswell be some government secrets we have here.
Ah.. the classical self-quote since people don't read properly. <3
LeSedna
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Or simply extra-ordinary night time military training. You don't use a top secret machine where every civilian can spot it from miles around, especially in Finland where you have all the space you want in remote places for that
Loren Littlejohn
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No proof of aliens: There has to be aliens.
No proof of God: There is no God.
What the fuck.
What I choose to go with:
Find proof of God: God
Find proof of Aliens: Aliens
Till then they are both just faith based non scientific assumptions or more accuratly "invisible people in the sky."
No proof of God: There is no God.
What the fuck.
What I choose to go with:
Find proof of God: God
Find proof of Aliens: Aliens
Till then they are both just faith based non scientific assumptions or more accuratly "invisible people in the sky."
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