Drum Help

[deathtotaliban]

I've been seeing a lot of threads about "sampling." I don't know a whole lot about triggering a sampling, but I've thought about checking it out. How tough is it? What kind of gear do you need? I'm not a newb, but the studio I used to work for was a demo at best kind of place.

Sampling drums is really really easy. You first need to get a program called Drumagog or Aptrigga. Then just search this forum and others for samples. Search this forum for more information on it.

 

[Mortal_Dezire]

understood.
Well it's blasphemy to say it around these parts but I have gotten some fine tom imaging using a glyn johns type setup

I think borrowing a double bass pedal would be helpful
kick
snare
one overhead directly over the snare drum, two drumstick lengths above the snare
one mic behind the drummers right shoulder two drumstick lengths from the center of the snare
two room mics
etc.
flip the phase on the snare most likely

lots of ways to do it
the tom pairs mentioned above arent a bad idea either

I tried this the other night when we started tracking. Works pretty well. Everything sounds even. Know I just need to work on the double bass. I took the front skins off and placed pillows in both kicks, but my drummer is complaining about there not being any "bounce back." What do you guys suggest?

 

[GeertSamuel]

I also recorded my kit with only 8 channels.
Put the 2 kicks to one channel (through a mixing desk or something) afterwards. trigger with drumagog.
1 Channel for snare

And tell your drummer to scale down his kit!!!
It will only help the quality of the recording..tell him to play with 4 toms instead of 6.

Then you can have:
2 Overheads (L and R)
1 Snare
1 Kick (2 to kicks to 1 channel)
4 Toms
= 8 channels in total..

That's how I worked...

 

[Mutant]

Cubase LE

Why people are still using that severely limited crap while there is Reaper which kicks cubarses (including full versions) ass in every imaginable way (ok maybe except the advanced midi functions) ?

 

[Mortal_Dezire]

Why people are still using that severely limited crap while there is Reaper which kicks cubarses (including full versions) ass in every imaginable way (ok maybe except the advanced midi functions) ?

Hey man. The only reason why I'm using this program is because it was free with my mixer. I'm too broke for pro tools and I don't know enough about a lot of the other programs out there.

 

[Mutant]

free

Reaper is an uncripled fully functional shareware and it's only 40$ for hobbyists, but if you don't want to pay a single penny, you can download an old pre v1.0 version which was 100% free.
http://www.reaper.fm/download-old-0x.php

I don't know enough about a lot of the other programs out there.

Here is a list of all daws (look at the bottom of the page):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation

 

[scorpio01169]

So far I'm getting a lot of good ideas. What I'm using is a Multifix 16 firewire mixer.

I almost thought about using more than 1 set of overheads, but point them mainly at the toms. Seeing that these are obviously condensors, in theory this should work....or am I completely wrong?

I know what I'm doing with guitars, but drums are new territory for me. Thanks for the help.

if you can maybe you can get this band to front you $250 then get on ebay and find you a m-audio delta 1010 and there you go...you have 8 more channels you can use...of course you will need and 8 channel pre...but that will be easy to find. here you go http://cgi.ebay.com/M-Audio-Delta-1010-PCI-Digital-Recording-System_W0QQitemZ300100113942QQihZ020QQcategoryZ41784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem