lol... we ALL mic kits and record them... let's hear you mix a metal record that sounds as solid in the low end as, say... DHIADW, without blending in some samples. c'mon, bust out and do it smarty pants.. i want to hear it NOW!! seriously though, give it a shot... wanna hear you begging for some samples by the end, it'll make me smile...:Smokedev:. dig the new avatar, \m/.Nitronium Blood said:
Why thank youJames Murphy said:
, though the credit goes to Andy 
yeah, you're right.. we all really suck for using samples.. when you grow up and are a big boy you can show us all how it's really meant to be doneNitronium Blood said:Why thank you
I'm no Andy Sneap or James Murpy or have any studio recording experience for that matter, but it is a gut feeling of mine that one can achieve good drum sounds without samples... just a gut feeling, nothing more and I could [and must probably be] be horribly wrong.
I can understand Andy blending the 'tickety' sound of the trigger to a Kick drum to give it that appreciated smidgen of 'clicky' goodness. But to say, "Hey Gentlemen, I happen to have a DVD of these awesome drum samples, (which are individual drum hits without blended samples) so lets blend them with my already awesome sounding miced kit" I just cannot comprehend.
I'm not challenging anyone. I'm here to learn. I just believe that one can achieve sweetened drum sounds via a thorough EQ approach.
That is all my good Sirs.
. honestly, do you think we never do that (mix without samples)? do you think we haven't done it many times over? my first solo album which i produced in 1996 for instance is completely sans samples.. "au naturale".. and it sounds great for the kind of music it is and the year it was done. But, you just cannot "eg in" the consistency of attack that you can get by blending in a sample. Nor can you "compress it in", you'll just get the apparent loudness, not the timbre. consisitency, especially in the kicks, just sounds soooo right for metal. Anyway, you seem quite confused about the whole subject.. not putting you down.. just trying to help: what do mean by "a DVD of these awesome drum samples, (which are individual drum hits without blended samples)"?? that makes no sense at all.... and many many times, the samples that are blended in are taken from the actual kit the drummer is playing.. this is what i most often to with toms, for instance... i get clean hit's a the top of a session (important so that the skins are not beaten lifeless) and replace any weak hits with the appropriate one of those. that's all a "drum sample" is anyway, a recording of an actual acoustic drum.
You?! WHY THAT'S BLOODY AWESOME!James Murphy said:ps.. definitely thank andy for you new avatar.. the idea.. the photoshop action however was courtesy of yours truly.
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