Editing SD 2.0 Black Beauty Snare

[GearMan2point0]

I put this post up on Andy Sneap might as well post it here! If anyone is using SD and having a hard time with the snare not fitting in the mix.

1. lacking fatness?
2. sticking out with harsher frequencies?

I have found a cure, at least it works for me anyway!

First thing is first, I send each individual piece to a track in the DAW!
**1. Go to your SD mixer! at the bottom part, click output option.
2. on sub menu, choose 1/2 for all three kick mics, all three snare mics, hi hat get it's own track, toms individually, and overheads to another track. What I do is I send AMB close, AMB mid and AMB far to the same track as Overheads. (lower volume than overheads)

Now as you are in you are in your SD mixer:

1. Snare Top:
a. EQ - +3db on low end from around 200hz (Low Shelf), -3db from mids (around 350-500hz), wider Q for that, then Raise 1-2db high shelf at around 2k.

2. Snare Bottom
a. EQ - -3db low end, low shelf / Keep mids there / (if you want thwack, add hi (bell curve) maybe 1-2db to around 3k-5k.
b. Transient Designer, take out sustain. medium amount. Just want that thwack to happen then cut out. You need that thwack to add mid punch (remember taking out mids on the top and comp, it leaves more room for mid thwack that is only .2 to .4 ms long.

3. Comp Snare
a. EQ - add bell curve at 200hz, few db's / take out some mids, medium Q, at around 500-800hz. Add some hi's for brightness.
b. Transient Designer, take out ping. lower sustain not too much!

Now you are done with SD Mixer!

Now to snare track on your DAW.....
1. Add compression!
-10 threshold
4:1 ratio
2 ms attack
200 ms release

2. Gclip, clip it a bit....not too much

3. Transient Designer
add attack

4. EQ
add more 200hz narrow Q
Add 5k for brightness if needed (depending on mix)
take out 2khz but only a very narrow Q (bad frequency for hearing)

NOW that the snare track is fine....go to your overhead track where you sent OH AMB's to thru the SD mixer....

1. Take out some mids of the OH's. YES even after you already took out low end to get rid of low end bleed. Take away mids! ***make sure you figure out what the sheen of the snare is, in the mid area..now take that from OH. not a wide Q just enough to get rid of some of the competition of the original tone of the snare and the edited snare! The orginal snare has a unbaring mid frequency sound that is sort of harsh!

Alter bleeds on SD mixer! That part is very crucial, since too much bleed can kill it. But too little makes the snare sound dryer and less ambient.

Then you add your reverb either directly on track with little wetness, or have have a send. But that is all! try it out tell me what you think!

 

[GearMan2point0]

I like how absolutely nobody finds this helpful

 

[Tommy Evans]

Haha. If I had SD 2.0 it'd be sweet. Thanks for the help but I doubt people on this forum would benefit from it. Glad you got some replies on the Sneap forum though

 

[GearMan2point0]

Yeah I realize this, oh well =P

 

[TaylorG]

I like how absolutely nobody finds this helpful

Because what works for one person almost never works for someone else.
You've given a preset. What is the rule of presets?

For instance, I find the best way of making SD2.0 sound good is to replace the shells.

Don't be disappointed because you've posted a preset, on a forum that hates presets, of a Superior Drummer sample, on a forum almost completely overtaken by Steven Slate.

 

[oroinvictus]

Because what works for one person almost never works for someone else.

+1

Your advice is good, but I personally hardly use SD2 anymore, and this processing may sound good and work for you and your production but it may not sound good and work for mine. Just my opinion.

 

[GearMan2point0]

I am not upset? lol if you stopped and read what I put in () you would see that I made it clear that it depends on the mix. I gave some information on why I made those changes....yeah it's a preset, I was trying to help. AND DUH! obviously its not going to work in every mix, but I was trying to explain different ways you can alter the snare. Jeesh people I made that clear. Love you guys though, much respect!

 

[Backe]

wtf dude

 

[GearMan2point0]

<3

 

[TaylorG]

I am not upset? lol if you stopped and read what I put in () you would see that I made it clear that it depends on the mix. I gave some information on why I made those changes....yeah it's a preset, I was trying to help. AND DUH! obviously its not going to work in every mix, but I was trying to explain different ways you can alter the snare. Jeesh people I made that clear. Love you guys though, much respect!

No need to get defensive.

 

[GearMan2point0]

wasn't meaning to get that point across. Anyway, I found also that sending the snare into another track with a Slate's snare 8z4 for tail end, makes for one hell of a swoop! Not even the same snare, sounds great though