i found a nice way to get the snare sit up front in the mix, without too much of the annoying hh bleed, thought i'd share this technique with you
listen here :
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=885205&songID=7488271
1. Snare without Plugins
2. Sn Trans / with SPL ON
3. Sn Sustain / with SPL ON
4. Whole Kit without SPL ON
5. Whole Kit with Sn Trans Added
6. Whole Kit with Sn Trans AND Sn Sustain Added
this goes for real recorded snares, though for my demo here i only used
superior 2.0. with added hh bleed, its pretty much the same.
still if you want to control the crack and the sustain of any percussive instrument, or even steven slate samples, try this technique !
great advantages with this technique :
- you can apply different eqs (for example boost the highs) on the attack, and leave the sustain of the signal untouched (where the highhat is audible)
- Snare will never get buried in the mix, especially if you insert "GCLIP" to
the transient track (like steven slate told in another thread ((go use the search function)) ) - just turn the tranients up
here we go
1. Send your Snare Track to 2 Auxes
2. name aux 1 = Sn Trans , name aux 2 Sn Sustain
3. insert transient designer (i use spl and would higly recommend that one, or eiosis e²) on both auxes as insert fx
4. go to Sn Trans Transient Designer and turn sustain alll the way down, till there is only the crack of the snare left.
if its not punchy enough for you, add some attack, till "Overload" indicates, your signal is too hot. then reduces some of the output Gain, maybe about 3-6 db so it does not clip
5. go to Sn Sustain and adjust the transient designer like this :
turn the attack all the way down - and add about 12 db of sustain.
now there will only be the sustain of the snare left.
6. now turn Sn Trans up. What you hear now is only the initial
transient of the snare. its like a "smack" in your face. this sound reminds me of 70s funk snare, fat, but still punchy ;-)
and you havent even added any eq or compression yet !
7. As the snare sounds very unnatural, turn SN Sustain up to about
- 15 db. only add so much sustain, so the snare sounds natural, ass the overheads / ambience mics / reverb will add some tail to the snare.
i personally insert a gate to get rid of unwanted transients from the toms,
but depending on the song, it doesnt always need gates at all with this technique.
i use the spl trans designer from the uad 2, try other transient designers like dominion or eiosis e². i personally use the spl.
hope you like that technique, i know its not totally new, but i never considered this technique when there was too much of the HH bleed.
i will post some clips with real recorded snares!
listen here :
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=885205&songID=7488271
1. Snare without Plugins
2. Sn Trans / with SPL ON
3. Sn Sustain / with SPL ON
4. Whole Kit without SPL ON
5. Whole Kit with Sn Trans Added
6. Whole Kit with Sn Trans AND Sn Sustain Added
this goes for real recorded snares, though for my demo here i only used
superior 2.0. with added hh bleed, its pretty much the same.
still if you want to control the crack and the sustain of any percussive instrument, or even steven slate samples, try this technique !
great advantages with this technique :
- you can apply different eqs (for example boost the highs) on the attack, and leave the sustain of the signal untouched (where the highhat is audible)
- Snare will never get buried in the mix, especially if you insert "GCLIP" to
the transient track (like steven slate told in another thread ((go use the search function)) ) - just turn the tranients up
here we go
1. Send your Snare Track to 2 Auxes
2. name aux 1 = Sn Trans , name aux 2 Sn Sustain
3. insert transient designer (i use spl and would higly recommend that one, or eiosis e²) on both auxes as insert fx
4. go to Sn Trans Transient Designer and turn sustain alll the way down, till there is only the crack of the snare left.
if its not punchy enough for you, add some attack, till "Overload" indicates, your signal is too hot. then reduces some of the output Gain, maybe about 3-6 db so it does not clip
5. go to Sn Sustain and adjust the transient designer like this :
turn the attack all the way down - and add about 12 db of sustain.
now there will only be the sustain of the snare left.
6. now turn Sn Trans up. What you hear now is only the initial
transient of the snare. its like a "smack" in your face. this sound reminds me of 70s funk snare, fat, but still punchy ;-)
and you havent even added any eq or compression yet !
7. As the snare sounds very unnatural, turn SN Sustain up to about
- 15 db. only add so much sustain, so the snare sounds natural, ass the overheads / ambience mics / reverb will add some tail to the snare.
i personally insert a gate to get rid of unwanted transients from the toms,
but depending on the song, it doesnt always need gates at all with this technique.
i use the spl trans designer from the uad 2, try other transient designers like dominion or eiosis e². i personally use the spl.
hope you like that technique, i know its not totally new, but i never considered this technique when there was too much of the HH bleed.
i will post some clips with real recorded snares!
