Endorsees Wanted !!!!! USA Hand Crafted Instruments

[guitarguru777]

The ultimate instrument has just arrived.

The Caliber Guitar Company is currently seeking endorsees for their new line of American made guitars and basses.

Total customization down to the smallest detail is available.

Visit http://www.caliberguitarcompany.tk

To check out the latest models and prices.

use the contact link on the contact page to find out more info on endorsments

 

[MajestikMøøse]

Hey Guru. I'll endorse. I can't say that I can play well.... or am even in a band, and even if all of your bodies are BC Rich knockoffs. Oh yeah, and in the contract it has to say that you will provide all the guitars I want for free

 

[Iced In Flames]

To be honest those guitar are quite ugly. The DKing series are ugly ripoffs of Neal Moser guitars that are offered at the MCS. I linked Neal to the site so we'll see what he thinks.

 

[guitarguru777]

To be honest those guitar are quite ugly. The DKing series are ugly ripoffs of Neal Moser guitars that are offered at the MCS. I linked Neal to the site so we'll see what he thinks.

Neal can say whatever he wants our designs are similar but not the same. Were also $1000 bucks cheaper. This isnt a competition neal makes great guitars, and were not trying to compete with him. We are merely makign our own guitars. Mabe BC rich should get on neils shit for the Virgin and Bitch knockoffs he made like your getting on ours.

 

[Clammy]

Neal can say whatever he wants our designs are similar but not the same. Were also $1000 bucks cheaper. This isnt a competition neal makes great guitars, and were not trying to compete with him. We are merely makign our own guitars. Mabe BC rich should get on neils shit for the Virgin and Bitch knockoffs he made like your getting on ours.

Hey pal, get your facts straight before you flame someone... Neal DESIGNED the Bich AND the Virgin (which was ORIGINALLY the Scythe). B.C. Rich owes him YEARS of royalties on BOTH designs!

All Moser Custom Shop instruments are HANDMADE, with NO CNC or other machines of that type used... they are built to the customers' specifications to the last detail... they are actually UNDER-priced for the quality and attention to detail you get, not to mention the amazing personal service!

Oh, and his name is spelled N E A L

Your "DKing" guitars are FAR too similar to two Moser Custom Shop models, designed by Rodney McGlothlin, to be a coincidence:

Your "DKing" series:

Moser Custom Shop "Bastard V":

Moser Custom Shop "Morpheus":

Yeah, that's a coincidence...

 

[guitarguru777]

As far as im concerned i could give a dam WHO built what, and what looks like what .I just play and endorse these badass axes. So if ya dont like em dont buy one. In other words ... who cares.

As far as BC oweing anyone anything, if it was so im portant to neal that his shit isnt copied then i would be getting royalties. So if neal wants to defend himself let him.

Until then quir yer complainaing and go play his guitars. Ill proudly play my calibers and keep kicking ass with them.

Sincerly
The Fukn Guru
Proud Endorsee Of Caliber Guitars

 

[Iced In Flames]

Well if its a "who cares" why dont you make a Les Paul style guitar? See who cares then. Ya did a nice 180 there as well.

Important is one word, and how the fuck would you be getting royalties from Neal? Because you stole his axes?

 

[guitarguru777]

Dude are you totally stoned. Who said anything about getting royalies from neal. Not me. Like i said earlier your prolly just bitter cause now you see a guitar of the same quality with a similar design for less money. Noone here is discrediting neals work. But you seem to think noone else can make an outrageous design and borrow from other designs.

Another thing, i guess you didnt browse the rest of the site where they also offer more conventional designs, along with a single cut les paul style arch top, and a double cutaway strat shape.

If everyone followed your methology of not copying other styles of guitars, Jackson, Ibanez, Carvin, Schecter, Hamer, and even Bc Rich wouldnt exist. They ALL borrowed from fender and gibson in the 70s and 80s to develope new designs. Its called EVOLUTION get used to it.

NONE of the guitars on calibers site are 100% knockoffs, do they borrow from other designs YES, have they borrowel from Bc Rich, YES, have we borrowed from Neal duh obviously YES, have they borrowed from Gibson and Jackson .. YES they have. And so have a billion other companies. Shape means very little to the quality of the instrument its the playability of the guitars that matter, until you PLAY it Dont knock it.

And im still waiting for neal to chime in on this. Guess he sees it the same way i do.

As far as me i never even knew this guy existed till you brought him to my attention. Like i said earlier im a player, and i dont work for the company, im just letting everyone know that they are a great company with great guitars. If you cant accept that then boo hoo on you .. theres no point in crying over it. you probably coudlnt afford either one anyway ..... lol

Da Fukn Guru

 

[Iced In Flames]

Oh you mean those shitty ripoffs you did? Here is a review of your guitars from someone at the MCS forum.

Haha, what the fuck! These designs are such shit! Let's break this down:

Intimidator: BC Rich Ignitor with shit on the horns

Robot: A 1st grader can draw better than that.

Dividian Vulture: Ahh! My Flying V got genital warts!

The SC: I'd really like to have a solidbody Dreadnaught!

Cyber JEM: Salvador Dali didn't make guitars.

Raptor: Opens beer bottles quite nicely.

Magnum: A Fender that will never fall over when you lean it against your amp.

Spider: Jackson Warrior on a tab of bad acid.

Warrior: Since when did Warlocks have roots growing on the ends?

Vendetta: Hmm. My computer monitor doesn't look like it's upside down

There are many more opinions on the forum and feel free to stop by and read some truth. Evolution in guitars is one thing. Taking a Warlock and adding pubes to the horns is another ya talentless hack. I can knock anything I like as well. I'm American. Yaay.

Neal has spoken. Feel free to read his post if you can do that.

I'd like to play one of those hunks of shit actually. I'd love to play these guitars that are made just as well as Neals. As Neal stated. Lets see some pics of these guitars being made. Lets see pics of the shop. I doubt you have any cuz the only ones that are/were made are the promo's. No one will buy those.

Yeah and you're right. I cant afford one. Thats why I have Morpheus #2 ordered. Ya know, Morpheus. The real version of that piece of shit thing you promote.

 

[Clammy]

Dude are you totally stoned. Who said anything about getting royalies from neal. Not me. Like i said earlier your prolly just bitter cause now you see a guitar of the same quality with a similar design for less money. Noone here is discrediting neals work. But you seem to think noone else can make an outrageous design and borrow from other designs.

Another thing, i guess you didnt browse the rest of the site where they also offer more conventional designs, along with a single cut les paul style arch top, and a double cutaway strat shape.

If everyone followed your methology of not copying other styles of guitars, Jackson, Ibanez, Carvin, Schecter, Hamer, and even Bc Rich wouldnt exist. They ALL borrowed from fender and gibson in the 70s and 80s to develope new designs. Its called EVOLUTION get used to it.

NONE of the guitars on calibers site are 100% knockoffs, do they borrow from other designs YES, have they borrowel from Bc Rich, YES, have we borrowed from Neal duh obviously YES, have they borrowed from Gibson and Jackson .. YES they have. And so have a billion other companies. Shape means very little to the quality of the instrument its the playability of the guitars that matter, until you PLAY it Dont knock it.

And im still waiting for neal to chime in on this. Guess he sees it the same way i do.

As far as me i never even knew this guy existed till you brought him to my attention. Like i said earlier im a player, and i dont work for the company, im just letting everyone know that they are a great company with great guitars. If you cant accept that then boo hoo on you .. theres no point in crying over it. you probably coudlnt afford either one anyway ..... lol

Da Fukn Guru

Man, you have no clue... "inspiration" or "evolution" and "RIPOFF" are 2 completely DIFFERENT things! As my friend Iced In Flames said, there's a LOT more to "evolution" than adding some pubes to a Warlock body!

And im still waiting for neal to chime in on this. Guess he sees it the same way i do.

You could NOT be more wrong. Check your PMs.

HERE's where you said your nonsense about royalties:

As far as BC oweing anyone anything, if it was so im portant to neal that his shit isnt copied then i would be getting royalties. So if neal wants to defend himself let him.

Oh, and just for you information... I can afford a Moser Custom Shop. In fact, I am waiting to have Arachnid Ultra bass #1 completed as we speak. Besides, since you endorse those ripoffs, YOU likely had to pay a lower price, if you didn't just get them for free... frankly, I can't see how the ability to afford an expensive instrument plays into this "discussion".

There's nothing wrong with promoting something you believe in, but get the facts straight, and take your head out of the sand... those "designs" are not inspired or evolved, they're slightly altered copies of some innovative ORIGINAL designs.

 

[guitarguru777]

Ok now that was a simple type o ....

I meant to say HE would be getting royalties. Excuse the type o ...

I meant to read if Neal was so worried about royalites HE would be getting paid, Excuse the type o now i see why your such a defensive asshole.

As far as neals guuitars ill say it 1 more time so your slow drug induced coma will understand it.

#1 NEALS GUITARS KICK ASS. I NEVER EVER SAID THEY SUCK. OR SPOKE BADLY ABOUT THEM.

#2 I DO NOT WORK FOR THE COMPANY I SIMPLY CAME HERE TO COMMENT ON THE WUALITY OF TGUITARS THEY MAKE. I ALSO SIMPLE DESIGNED THE OTHER SERIES AS SOMETHING FUN TO DO AND OFFER ALTERNATIVES TO POPULAR SHAPES

#3 Dont you have anything better to do in your miserable life then bitch about guitars you cant afford.

As far as calline Neal, have him call caliber and talk to the owner of the company. It doesnt matter to ME. The quality is awsome and the guitars play amazingly. Ill keeo buying from them. Cause they kick ass, and the service is awsome.

 

[Anekretia]

argh, first off let me stand up for myself here, I had NO IDEA who Neal was until all too recently, and hey GREAT WORK NEAL, fact is the only TWO similar styles(which you did a fine job posting) are just that SIMILAR they arent copies, and les paul>??? people been doin that a bit too much. now after seeing neals work, and comparing notes here, I am more than happy to work with Neal on this instead of gettin him all fired up, I am not doing this to fail, I need to feed my three kids, and this is what I know how to do.now I have ONE design of my own, I did allow some to add "thier own" and the royalty was simply a ten % check to the designer, now, if i gotta pay Moser instead of a kid in Canadad then so be it, I just wanna build quality instruments of metal mayhem, and ya know if a 16 year old kid from canada ripped you off, I am sorry and I will remove it until this is fixed.as it is noen have been sold, and nobody is really interested, see I am targetting a market of kids for the most part, and a few select individuals who will all have models designed to THIER OWN SPECS not anyone elses. NEAL MOSER! I apologize for this persons actions and he will be dealt with swiftly. I plan on sharing the NAMM floor with you as well as B.C. rich, and others I am sure. If Mr. Moser wishes to speak with me he can email me at caliber_guitars@msn.com or call my partner at (760)375-6850 so that we can get this straightened out, for now, lets not be saying that "I" ripped anyone off, it's not my style, and if need be since some seem to be the authority on the subject maybe i should run every thin i do by them? I am not even attempting to compete with moser, he has years ahead of me, and I dont wanna step on his toes either, I have one design currently that is our own and copywritten, the rest will be removed until this is settled. I am workin on providing the average musicina with better instruments than they would get at well known store chains that push plywood guitars, this was my original goal sorry if it was so offensive to want to help out the little guys.

with ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR MOSER and his friends, ill leave this for you to read and judge as you see fit.

 

[guitarguru777]

Hey Clammy ....

No offence to Neal here ... but i guees he likes to make copies too.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/26/3b/b4_1_b.JPG

Hmmmm curious aint it that he would COPY a strat.

Neal my apologies for my typo earlier. As far as the bearded clam over here (yes thats a pun for calling clammy a pussy)

your a fuckin IDIOT ass kisser.

o yea check out the Jackson Rip Off Too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3735810903&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Funny part is i found these in Mosers Own Forum .... ha ha ha ha ha ha...
He makes Knockoffs too .... AMAZING

 

[Anekretia]

just noticing, they ebayer says in the description line that it was tailored to his specs, but he cant tel you what the pickups are.....may not be a lot of reality to that, the issue here isnt if moser makes copies, its that everyone thinks I and guru here ripped off moser, when the fact is, we didnt lay claim to the designs, a 16 year old canadian kid did. I have no more to say about any of that, it has been dealt with , I have apologized to Moser in forum AND pm, and believe me if i had a phone i would call the guy, but I dont. I am tryin to salvage any good left as far as a relation between moser and my company, after all, he runs a company the way I wish I could afford to right now, until then I am prey, running amongst the shadows trying to stay out of his way. I have approximately 25 guitars to build, most of which are being recieved for free just to get my name out there, I am struggling and putting every available penny into this, even money i dont have at times, to try and bring a professional level guitar to the average guitar p[layer, I am not even near mosers market in guitars, I know this, I never claimed to be. I resent being called the things I have been called. I strive to be better than that, this is why the models were able to be seen, so that we would know if they were original or not, none have been sold.

rock on gentelmen!

 

[Clammy]

Hey Clammy ....

No offence to Neal here ... but i guees he likes to make copies too.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/26/3b/b4_1_b.JPG

Hmmmm curious aint it that he would COPY a strat.

Neal my apologies for my typo earlier. As far as the bearded clam over here (yes thats a pun for calling clammy a pussy)

your a fuckin IDIOT ass kisser.

o yea check out the Jackson Rip Off Too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3735810903&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Funny part is i found these in Mosers Own Forum .... ha ha ha ha ha ha...
He makes Knockoffs too .... AMAZING

Son, you need to talk to Neal about this.

Everyone knows that a strat shape is based on the Fender design. Everyone knows that a Les Paul shape is based on a Gibson design. Where the problem lies is when someone comes around and rips off an innovative design from a small builder who cannot afford to go to court to fight for their rights (which is why B.C. Rich is NOT paying Neal his due royalties), and claims it as their own. If you can't see that, you're fool.

One more time: I CAN afford these instruments. Trust me, my CUSTOM MCS Arachnid Ultra probably cost twice what any of the Caliber guitars go for. Again, I don't see how this applies to our "conversation".

Calling me an "asshole" or a "pussy" or an "IDIOT" sure helps to support your side of this "debate", and proves that you are a real tough guy! I am running scared now! (SARCASM mode OFF)

Finally, I'm not an "ass kisser" ( ), I am simply defending a friend. However that being said, the opinion of an internet warrior really means nothing to me, so please feel free to believe whatever you wish.

You just keep your head buried nicely in the sand... after all ignorance is bliss, and you must be one of the most blissful people I've ever met!

 

[Clammy]

argh, first off let me stand up for myself here, I had NO IDEA who Neal was until all too recently, and hey GREAT WORK NEAL, fact is the only TWO similar styles(which you did a fine job posting) are just that SIMILAR they arent copies, and les paul>??? people been doin that a bit too much. now after seeing neals work, and comparing notes here, I am more than happy to work with Neal on this instead of gettin him all fired up, I am not doing this to fail, I need to feed my three kids, and this is what I know how to do.now I have ONE design of my own, I did allow some to add "thier own" and the royalty was simply a ten % check to the designer, now, if i gotta pay Moser instead of a kid in Canadad then so be it, I just wanna build quality instruments of metal mayhem, and ya know if a 16 year old kid from canada ripped you off, I am sorry and I will remove it until this is fixed.as it is noen have been sold, and nobody is really interested, see I am targetting a market of kids for the most part, and a few select individuals who will all have models designed to THIER OWN SPECS not anyone elses. NEAL MOSER! I apologize for this persons actions and he will be dealt with swiftly. I plan on sharing the NAMM floor with you as well as B.C. rich, and others I am sure. If Mr. Moser wishes to speak with me he can email me at caliber_guitars@msn.com or call my partner at (760)375-6850 so that we can get this straightened out, for now, lets not be saying that "I" ripped anyone off, it's not my style, and if need be since some seem to be the authority on the subject maybe i should run every thin i do by them? I am not even attempting to compete with moser, he has years ahead of me, and I dont wanna step on his toes either, I have one design currently that is our own and copywritten, the rest will be removed until this is settled. I am workin on providing the average musicina with better instruments than they would get at well known store chains that push plywood guitars, this was my original goal sorry if it was so offensive to want to help out the little guys.

with ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR MOSER and his friends, ill leave this for you to read and judge as you see fit.

You and Neal SHOULD talk.

I have based what I said on what I saw on your website. The reaction was strong because we've seen this kind of thing happen in the past, and it is starting to happen more frequently, including larger manufacturers ripping designs off and never crediting the actual designer. Neal is a good friend of mine, and I take it personally when I believe my friends are being wronged.

I think it's a great thing that you want to settle this with Neal, and I hope you guys talk soon.

 

[Anekretia]

well after grilling the individual responsible, I am happy to report his side of the story,

turns out he was a young fan of Mr. Moser's work, and did think there was any wrong doing in a similar production line. The mistake has been fully corrected, and I have Pm'd Neal himself to try and resolve all this. Again I apologize for the drama, and it was unknown to us what had happened, we will not be promoting any designs until it has been thrououghly searched out from now on. I dont have a phone available to me at the moment but if i can get to my partners ill call him from there when i can.

 

[Anekretia]

and as far as crediting him , i would not have a problem doing that, if that is what is to be, even if moser gets a %agebut again, im selling for much less than him i gather...so who knows if it is even worth it....

 

[Iced In Flames]

As Clammy has stated. Neal has had to go through more than his fair share of getting ripped off and completely fucked over, so people such as Clammy and I are devoted to seeing the Neal get what he deserves and not fucked over. Just do a little reading. So some of us like to make sure that whenever we see something like this going on the situation is rectified.

What is the obsession with saying we cant afford instruments? Clammy is gonna have a badass Arachnid Ultra soon. It's been in the works for awhile now and I shall have a Morpheus. Saying something like that is nothing more than trying to poke fun of someone because you feel you are at some sort of elevated state so that you can do that. And calling him those things are rediculous. You know nothing about him.

Anekretia. You seem like a pretty cool guy. And you seem like you know what you are talking about. It would be good indeed if you and Neal talked about this. I'm sure only good could come of it.

As far as those auctions. Most any builder will build a certain style guitar. If I asked nearly any builder, that isnt a big corp, to build me a strat they would. It's not like Neal has a whole line of Strats and Les Pauls. Its all on what the customer wants. So think about that.

 

[guitarguru777]

The fact still remais that if i was not ATTACKED like i was on the forum none of this would have happened. If you people would have approached it nicely instaed of . YOU ASSHOLE YOU RIPPED THIS AND THAT OFF. mabe things would have been different. As far as Neal is concerned ive already made my apologies and so has Dave.

Now as far as the reest of the forum that decided to DOG us cause we made a simple mistake. i apologise as well. i can be the bigger man and set this all behind me. I was simply defending my instument and the quality of it just as you were defending neal. If you cant understand that o well.....

See you all at Namm
Da Fukn Guru
http://www.atfatezend.cjb.net