Engl cab owners...

I've been known to do it either way... but usually I stick with the grille on. It forces me to keep my distance with the mics (if I stick the mic too far in, it might sound good in headphones, but the tracks are almost always phasey-sounding and unusable afterward), and it gives a good frame of reference to reproduce a good mic position later (although fine-tuning is always by ear).
 
Another question regarding ENGL cabs, I think it might just fit in this thread...

Has anybody ever directly compared the ENGL Pro cabinet to the Standard (V30 vs. V60) in the studio?

I'm curious because I love my V60 cab for live use but wonder if a V30 cab would work better in the studio. When I tried to mic my cab last year (Sneap style with a 57) there was some fizz/harshness I couldn't get rid of, but I don't know if that was because of the cab, the room, the mic preamp (Digi 001) or my inferior micing/amp-dialing skills (very possible :D ).
That's why I went the DI route for recording, but for reamping we're gonna enter a studio.

So if it is likely to sound better I might ask a buddy of mine to borrow his V30 cab for a weekend...
 
Fifth_Horseman said:
Another question regarding ENGL cabs, I think it might just fit in this thread...

Has anybody ever directly compared the ENGL Pro cabinet to the Standard (V30 vs. V60) in the studio?

I'm curious because I love my V60 cab for live use but wonder if a V30 cab would work better in the studio. When I tried to mic my cab last year (Sneap style with a 57) there was some fizz/harshness I couldn't get rid of, but I don't know if that was because of the cab, the room, the mic preamp (Digi 001) or my inferior micing/amp-dialing skills (very possible :D ).
That's why I went the DI route for recording, but for reamping we're gonna enter a studio.

So if it is likely to sound better I might ask a buddy of mine to borrow his V30 cab for a weekend...
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I know that the V60 has a flatter EQ spectrum compared to the V30 and I would guess is slightly smoother as it doesn't have that Mid-Hump. The best thing would be to just get hold of a single V30 and stick it in one of the spots just whilst recording, then you can choose. I found that cutting around 2300hz takes out that fizz the V30 tends to have (at least on my recordings anyway).

I'll repeat my question over in this thread, anyone have any opinion on whats better for recording only (no live usage) the Engl 4x12 or 2x12? I.e. is there any real advantage to buying the 4x12 over the smaller cab for close-miking recording purposes? I too really want to pick one up this year. I guess this would apply to any cab really.
 
Fifth_Horseman said:
Another question regarding ENGL cabs, I think it might just fit in this thread...

Has anybody ever directly compared the ENGL Pro cabinet to the Standard (V30 vs. V60) in the studio?

I'm curious because I love my V60 cab for live use but wonder if a V30 cab would work better in the studio. When I tried to mic my cab last year (Sneap style with a 57) there was some fizz/harshness I couldn't get rid of, but I don't know if that was because of the cab, the room, the mic preamp (Digi 001) or my inferior micing/amp-dialing skills (very possible :D ).
That's why I went the DI route for recording, but for reamping we're gonna enter a studio.

So if it is likely to sound better I might ask a buddy of mine to borrow his V30 cab for a weekend...
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like v60 for live, prefer v30 for Studio (more bite)
 
Would you say you prefer the V60 for live use, Lasse? And honestly, what the fuck is a V60 anyway? There's no mention of it on Celestion's website; is it pretty much (or entirely) a G12T75?
 
Thanks for the answers.

I prefer my V60 live as well, have played over V30 cabs on several gigs and always noticed that mid hump/honk (which isn't a big problem of course). But I totally see how that would help in the studio.
 
Metaltastic said:
Would you say you prefer the V60 for live use, Lasse? And honestly, what the fuck is a V60 anyway? There's no mention of it on Celestion's website; is it pretty much (or entirely) a G12T75?
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the v60 is NOTHING like the t75.
it's very smooth and warm sounding.
Live I prefer it for some very bright and mid-heavy amps (Blackmore, Marshall, Laney), I still prefer the v30 live for Recto etc.
 
I know that the fireball is specially voiced for v30 speakers. so it depends on the amp also. using two v60 and two v30 probably is the most flexible way for recording/live gigging.
 
Yeah my Fireball definitely needs that mid spike the V30's have as its voiced really scooped.
 
LSD-Studio said:
like v60 for live, prefer v30 for Studio (more bite)
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Quick question to everyone praising the v60's performance over the v30 - would anyone be willing to make 2 or 3 impulses of it for all of us in virtual land to at least have something similar? I've come across a few engl impulses (all v30's, apparently) and haven't really liked how mid-range honk-y they are.

So how's bout it?

Thanks!
 
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