Anyone know if these speaker sounds decent? I have a hard time imagining how something with such a high power handling would sound at all good, but if it was in Mesa of old can it be that bad? Also, how are the Black shadows?
EV 200w in old Mesa cabs?
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Omega_Void
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FWIW I had a Mesa combo with the EV speaker in it, and I really liked the sound. But I never pushed them really hard, and I'm told they break up badly when ramped. Also haven't used them in a closed cab. And I never got a decent recording of that rig.
Alternatively, they ain't in Mesa anymore, so ...?
Zakk Wild endorses the EV reissue.
Balance of opinions I've heard seems to be "if you like 'em you like 'em, but they're not a great all-rounder".
Sorry I can't be more help.
That's alright dude, that's actually quite helpful, thanks! Anyone have any thoughts on Black Shadows?
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Those cabs sound amazing with the Mesa Mark IV or Mark III. I haven't tried them with any other amps, but with those they sound ballsy as all hell.
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Cool, thanks guys, even though this will be a live-only cab, I still think I'll stay away from anything with the EV's. So what about Black Shadows? Anyone have any thoughts on those?
Black Shadows are awesome drivers! They work best in the Mesa/Boogie 3/4-back cabs. They sound awesome with all kinds of heads too. I used to have a 3/4-back cab a long time ago. Ran it with a Mea Boogie 90+90 Power amp and a Hafler Hellraiser preamp. S I C K .
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there's two different black shadows, one is a celestion 90 watt and one is an EV. Check the label to see which is which.
The EV drivers are some of the finest speakers ever made, but the problem is we have been acclimated to expect the sound of a celestion with heavy guitars. Celestions are not flat and not without color, and they break up quickly,that's what we like about them. The EV is clean and accurate and puts out exactly what you put into it, no more, no less.
I put a celestion black shadow in my fender deluxe reverb and about fell over it was so shockingly good. Way different than the original driver. But it was in a Fender amp so keep that in mind.
Both are fantastic speakers, they just do different things.
The EV drivers are some of the finest speakers ever made, but the problem is we have been acclimated to expect the sound of a celestion with heavy guitars. Celestions are not flat and not without color, and they break up quickly,that's what we like about them. The EV is clean and accurate and puts out exactly what you put into it, no more, no less.
I put a celestion black shadow in my fender deluxe reverb and about fell over it was so shockingly good. Way different than the original driver. But it was in a Fender amp so keep that in mind.
Both are fantastic speakers, they just do different things.
All good points man. I actually had forgotten about the Celestion Version. I prefer the EV's. And yeah, EV's are definitely more transparent.
Hmm, I've only ever seen C90 black shadows, so I wouldn't know what to look for; is it fairly obvious which is which? Thanks a lot guys!
Well, after some Googling, I've found that you may be pretty hard pressed to find the original EV Black Shadows anywhere, unless you score a mid-'80's Mesa/Boogie cab. Looks like EV stopped making them, so Celestion took over making them for Mesa, which is why it's now called the MC-90 (Mesa/Celestion 90w)... They get great reviews though. Apparently, the closest thing I can find to the original are those 300w monsters that Zakk Wylde endorses now. I'm pretty sure the original Black Shadows were 100w each.
Haha. No sweat bro. I can be a Plethora of absolutely useless knowledge sometimes.
