Eye of the Enemy EP finally out (free download)

[Ermz]

Half the solos are from their old guitars session in which they used a 6505+, but the tone wasn't the greatest. When we re-did the majority of the lead work and solos, a 6505+ was used again, and I think an EMG 81 may have been at play, the guitar was an LTD of some sort or another. I can't remember what pickups were used where (neck or bridge), but you should be able to pick it up by listening.

 

[Nebulous]

Nice. I really like the higher output neck tones. People can talk the Jazz up as much as they want, but it needs more gain for leads.

 

[Ermz]

Really? Even getting it up closer to the string isn't enough?

From what I recall the instances where the neck pickup is used (I think mainly for solos... most of the leads, if not all were done with the bridge pickup) it was a fairly unspectacular one.

 

[Nebulous]

Na, getting it closer to the string doesn't help alot. I have found a nice balance, but once you get too close (with either position) it get's to a point that sounds really grainy and muddy.

The reason I ask about the tone and pickup is because I've always been more of a fan of the bridge pickup for leads in metal, but I know we've had discussions on here where people said they prefer the neck pickup for leads. I never quite got it.

For what it's worth, I haven't been able to pick a "lesser" lead tone on the EP so far.

 

[Ermz]

Oh nice. I tried hard to get the old tone sitting in the mix so you wouldn't be able to pick it being done in a different set of sessions.

With neck vs bridge... I use both. I think it depends on what you're playing in the solo, over the top of what, and what sort of feel you're trying to give. I like neck for arpeggios and really smooth velvety stuff. Bridge for all out shred, grit and gain... and pinchies. *sigh* gotta wait till the 12th to get my guitar back.

 

[Nebulous]

12th of April? That's not too bad!!

 

[Skyweaver]

Fantastic tunes, mix - these guys are going to be huge !

well done

 

[Ermz]

I'm glad you like it, Dean. How's the Luthor material coming up?

 

[Skyweaver]

I'm glad you like it, Dean. How's the Luthor material coming up?

all on hold mate

you know your going to have to charge more after an album like this Ermin.....I cant wait to see these guys live

 

[Ermz]

Sorry to hear!

I think I will have to figure out whether I'll even have any more work in the near future before I consider rate hikes, ! Unfortunately it's as much about as exposure with for me as it is for them.

 

[seanoftheenemy]

What was used for the leads on this (amp, neck or bridge pickup)?

It's a great sound.

Hey dudes, cheers for the nice words! The solos on Theocracy and Weight of Redemption were recorded with a 6505+ through a marshall 1960a cab with a Jackson rhoads EX, soley because it was the only guitar in our posession with a floyd rose at the time. That guitar had a EMG 81 in the bridge and a stock jackson pickup in the neck, pretty sure I just used the bridge pickup for all of it though. The solo on Disarray, Burn the World and Facade were done with a Stephen carpenter LTD with emg 81 in bridge pozzie though a 6505+ and mesa cab.

Cheers
-Sean

 

[Nebulous]

Nice. Thanks Sean. I'll keep my pickup selector worknig for the folk and softer rock stuff that I play. For metal I can be at rest in forgetting about it.

I still listen to the EP regularly and am really enjoying it. I'm looking forward to the Cornish Arms gigs coming up.

 

[Soundlurker]

Great stuff, sound- and musicwise

 

[Ermz]

Nice. Thanks Sean. I'll keep my pickup selector worknig for the folk and softer rock stuff that I play. For metal I can be at rest in forgetting about it.

I still listen to the EP regularly and am really enjoying it. I'm looking forward to the Cornish Arms gigs coming up.

Hey Dan, the neck pickups aren't that useless for metal. Watch some vids of malmsteen going at it, and he switches back and forth all the time. Granted the neck isn't for everyone, but I personally reckon it's a cool sound and use it quite frequently for sweeping oriented stuff.

 

[Nebulous]

Fair enough. I think I might like it better if the neck and bridge were closer in their output than the pair that I have now.

 

[GuitarHack]

Hey Dan, the neck pickups aren't that useless for metal. Watch some vids of malmsteen going at it, and he switches back and forth all the time. Granted the neck isn't for everyone, but I personally reckon it's a cool sound and use it quite frequently for sweeping oriented stuff.

Dave Murray.

 

[Ermz]

The output is the likely problem. Unless the neck is putting out a similar amount of gain as the bridge, it tends to sound a lot thinner and weaker. Key to the neck pickup is having enough saturation to keep it rounded sounding. With the Hellraiser my neck pickup was a bit lower and had a lower output, so it always sounded a bit lackluster to when I was soloing on the bridge. I wonder if Jim will raise it up or whether I'll do it myself here, haha. Only a week now!