Fear Factory- Archetype

[SculptedCold]

Odd that you should find Obsolete repetetive at all.....in my eyes, its by a fair distance their album with the largest range of moods, paces and textures. You've got the emotional songs like Timelessness and Descent, you've got really hard hitters like Hi Tech Hate, Smasher/Devourer and Freedom or Fire, you've got the epic songs such as Resurrection, Securitron and Shock, and the weird, experimental ones like Edgecrusher and Obsolete. Digimortal has those two slow ones, but the rest of the album is all quite similar between each song, and of course Demanufacture and SOANM have nothing much approaching variety at all.

 

[Cyanide]

i really liked Obsolete, of course not as much as Demanufacture but it was still ok. Then when i heard Digimortal i was like wtf? what is this crap...

 

[Oceanic Motion]

Obsolete > Demanufacture > Digimortal > SoANM

Obsolete is my favourite because each song is killer, and like SculptedCold said, it has the largest range of moods, paces and textures. And i bought it in Florida on holiday too and reminds me of that holiday whenever I listen to it.

Demanufacture is only let down by some weak songs near the end of the CD, "Flash Point" & "Body Hammer" being my least favourite.

Digitmortal was/is just a complete disappointment even if they is 5 or 6 pretty good songs on it.

Soul of A New Machine is my least favourite, but it has two of my favourite songs on it, "Martyr" and "Scapegoat".

 

[speed]

Hm personal opinion for me goes

Demanufacture> Fear is the Mindkiller> Soul of A New MAchine> Obsolete> Digimortal.

I cant even listen to Digimortal.

Everyone forgets the industrial metal brilliance of Fear is the Mindkiller. Sure its a EP, but a damn good one. Still the best pure industrial metal ive heard.

 

[speed]

Why dont you like SOul of A New Machine? I dont see whats not to like about it?

 

[SculptedCold]

Well, for me its mainly two reasons. One, it sounds like they're trying to be a death metal band, and it just doesn't come off. That is only my interpretation of course.... Secondly, because Burton's vocals are terrible on that album. There are several moments of mention when he tries to growl........erm....well...failure is an understatement. I just think everything after it is stylistically superior, even Digimortal.

 

[NocturnalSun]

Archetype had better be good. I hope this won't be another 'Metallica' impression where the band puts out shit and calls it their 'best ever.' I doubt it will be shit, but lets hope they don't pull a Metallica on us...

Demanufacture is still my fave album. As someone said before on UM, songs like Zero Signal and Self Bias Resistor are the pinnacle of machine metal. Exact and precise guitar/drum coordination. The closest to perfect a band can get. If Raymond is better than that now, I can't wait for Archetype.

 

[edwardgein]

Great band but a Nirvana cover?

Dude, even Imapled did a Nirvana cover. I think covering Nirvana is cool as long as its not "smells like" or any other song that is concered a "hit".

As for the new song on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre cd, apperently its a demo/remix version, I love it. Its kind of like a more industrial "obsolete"-era style but none the less its great. I cannot wait for the new album too.

Edit - if anyone wants to hear the new track i could host a little "sample" of it.

 

[DEEK]

Look for the new Fear Factory album to be released sometime in April. Christian reports that he recorded both guitar and bass parts for the album, but SYL bassist Byron Stroud will be filling in on the upcoming tour.

Tracklist:

‘Slave Labor’
‘Cyberwaste’
‘Act Of God’
‘Default Judgement’
‘Corporate Cloning’
‘Archetype’
‘Drones’
‘Bite The Hand That Bleeds...’
‘Bonescraper’
‘Undercurrent’
‘Human Shields’
‘Ascencion’ (outro)
Bonus track - ‘School’ (NIRVANA cover)

better be better than Digimortal. that's all i have to say, heh

 

[OceanbarD]

as far as am concerned , demanufacture was definetly my favorite and the best album of the band in the facts. my 2nd fav has to be concrete , many songs on it are death metal , we see where they come from. obsolete holds the 3rd spot for me. definetly looking foward to the next album, so its on again , great , can only wish we dont get another digimortal.

 

[dill_the_devil]

Hmmm... I'ma bit confused about all this though - apparently, Dino was bitching about the gradual commercialisation of FF during the Digimortal recording sessions - mainly moaning about having to play clean guitar on Invisible Wounds, that kind of thing. Also, after FF split, Burton announced he'd be doing a new project called The Watchers (http://www.thewatchers.org) in which he said he didn't want to do any more growling vocals - he'd just be singing clean and concentrating on more ambient, mellow music. So, if Dino was the only one who wanted to keep FF heavy, why are the others going for a back-to-the-roots sound?

Smells like a rapid career-booster move to me...

 

[speed]

Dill you make some good points. Has Fear Factory decided that to be commercially successfull, they have to go back to their roots? Did they just all hate Dino? Was it the record label- werent they on roadrunner for digimortal? Or did they actually listen to digimortal, and Demanufacture back to back, and decide hell, this new stuff really is pretty fucking lame, maybe we should go back to what we did best?

 

[SculptedCold]

hmmm, I heard that it was Dino who was mainly responsible for the more commercial impetus of Digimortal....and it was the rest of the band that didn't want to continue down that road.....so the split was engineered to get Dino out of there....and then the band reformed so they could do the old school stuff.


Thats what I heard, but I have no idea if its true at all...so...

 

[Under a Stone]

Digimortal was alright except the rap song

 

[anonymousnick2001]

All the band members wanted to make Digimortal a more accsessible album. The quote was 'something easier to digest so more people could get into it.'

Obsolete had some great songs, like Descent, Shock, Egdecrusher, Resurrection...but it's missing the speed and the keyboards. The concept is amazing, though.

SoaNM was equally great. I love Bell's growling back on that album. Prety brutal if you ask me, and the clean vocals are all the more haunting. Plus, the band was super-technical and...well, to my knowledge it's the first death metal album with electronics and clean singing.

 

[The Maelstrom Mephisto]

For me it's Demanufacture > Obsolete > SOANM > Digimortal

Digimortal wasn't awful, it just had some really dull moments and some stupid song decisions (the rap song and having an unbelievably awesome intro on Hurt Conveyor and then having a crappy song afterwards).

And also, the riffs in that last song (the instrumental) are absolutely kiler.

I hope thios new album is more like the Demanufacture era because i would have that album faster than u can say Wippitygippit

 

[edwardgein]

hmmm, I heard that it was Dino who was mainly responsible for the more commercial impetus of Digimortal....and it was the rest of the band that didn't want to continue down that road.....so the split was engineered to get Dino out of there....and then the band reformed so they could do the old school stuff.


Thats what I heard, but I have no idea if its true at all...so...

Plus remember this? Dino talked about why "Digimortal" wasn't selling well and he blamed it on 9/11. What fucking balls to say an incident caused your cd, which pretty much blew in comparison to the rest of your material, to sell poorly.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

I think Dino is suffering from Lars Ulrich/Michael Jackson syndrome...