Finally tried Moongels

[~BURNY~]

A good tuned snare/toms + a good drummer makes it just so much more fun, even though i always sample enhance the drums.

I don't always sample enhance.
And this is also from an amateur drummer standpoint.

I like the sustain in the middle ground. Not too long (St Angerish klang lol), not too short although it depends on the music too.

I've tried duct tape and paper tissue, mufflers that you clamp on the rim, remo ring controls (great on the Kick drum, horrible on the other shells), matsound rings...

Moongel type of muffler is the best by far because it gives you full control.

Sometimes a trigger (when needed) is just enough like Trevoire mentioned though.

 

[bryan_kilco]

Tried it, was not impressed with my experience. It didn't fit very well on the rim of either of my studio snares (Ludwig Black Beauty and Dunnett Steel, both with triple-flange hoops), and thus wouldn't lay flat on the head, no matter what I did. I went back to moongels.

Huh, I was hoping someone would chime in with any experience with that thing. Was thinking about grabbing one for our drummer because his BDay is coming up. Scratch that. Seems like it could possibly just get in the way, too.

 

[~BURNY~]

Huh, I was hoping someone would chime in with any experience with that thing. Was thinking about grabbing one for our drummer because his BDay is coming up. Scratch that. Seems like it could possibly just get in the way, too.

Buy him a metronome

 

[BLUElightCory]

Buy him a metronome

Haha, or a Tunebot.

 

[bryan_kilco]

He's got a drum dial or whatever now.

And he's got metronome apps on his phone.

He absolutely HATES click tracks. I'm totally gonna fuck with him soooo bad when we are tracking drums for our album soon.

 

[crillemannen]

If I get good tuned drums and a really good drummer/band I won't use samples but most of the times I'll have sampled everything before recording anything else. So moongles are great for get less bleed in the OHs...

By the way I would really like to see a "Haga Productions - Studio Haga Mixing Guide with crillemannen".
I really like the guitar and drum tones you're getting there!

Thanks man, i will actually share a recording in a month or so, just waiting for the album to be released so atleast you'll get some raw tracks from me

I don't always sample enhance.
And this is also from an amateur drummer standpoint.
I like the sustain in the middle ground. Not too long (St Angerish klang lol), not too short although it depends on the music too.
I've tried duct tape and paper tissue, mufflers that you clamp on the rim, remo ring controls (great on the Kick drum, horrible on the other shells), matsound rings...
Moongel type of muffler is the best by far because it gives you full control.
Sometimes a trigger (when needed) is just enough like Trevoire mentioned though.

Well ofc you don't want a St.Anger snare sustain haha but i really think sustain is the key to a good smackin' snare, cause the mix will always eat up a great deal of the sustain from the snare, and if the real snare is already dead when you record, or damped real hard well then you'll only get the transient and it will be totally dead in the mix.

 

[LBTM]

By the way, is it possible to to tune a drum with just putting close a mic, hitting it on the sides and checking with a tuner vst? I've got 2 weeks off so I can't test it.

 

[SwambA]

On my set (a Cheap Tama Swingstar) I use Evans E-rings on the toms, they sound much better than the Moongel, but on the the snare(Tama Metalworks) Moongel was a god send. It was the only thing that took out out this crazy PING!!! sound, without killing the snare.

 

[JeffTD]

Tried it, was not impressed with my experience. It didn't fit very well on the rim of either of my studio snares (Ludwig Black Beauty and Dunnett Steel, both with triple-flange hoops), and thus wouldn't lay flat on the head, no matter what I did. I went back to moongels.

Weird, I was just up at The Panda Studio with Sam Pura this weekend and he was raving about it. Said he had to try a few different leather inserts to get it to work but that now he loves it to death.