First I've recorded myself. Controstate - In Case Of Emergency

[shadowstephenson]

www.myspace.com/madilynmusic
In Case Of Emergency.

not the previous one.

I used a Presonus Firestudio Project, iMac, and Logic Pro Studio 8.
Acoustic drums:
Kick - Aaron Gillespie Sig kit.
Snare - Pearl somethingorother. (can't remember)
Toms - 12' and 13'
Cymbals - 21' Zildian Sweet Ride and 20' Zildjian A Custom Crash
Zildian K high hat.

Sampson drum mic 8 pack.
Mic on snare, toms, kick mic right at hole, mic on each cymbal and high hat.

Guitars recorded with Line 6 Spider Valve direct out.
No eq.

I need help with space and putting things into a spectrum, that's the thing i'm worried about right now.
plus, i don't know much about stereo and mono things.
advice on this would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

Anymore info you need, just ask.

 

[shadowstephenson]

no help, i guess.

 

[mburton21]

For your first recording that's not bad.

However I'd recommend against using the Direct Out of the Spider amp.

Also:

-Roll off the guitars at 75-100Hz to give the low end breathing room. 12dB/oct or so. Around 11kHz on the opposite side as well.
-Bass guitar?
-Keyboards sound good; too loud in comparison to the rest of the mix however.
-How many takes of rhythm guitar did you do?

I'd redo the guitars no question. Make sure to get a DI track if you're serious about maybe getting a studio to mix your stuff or if you want to use an Ampsim.

Better than my first recording

 

[shadowstephenson]

thanks a lot for your reply, man.

yeah, this'll make me sound like a 'noob,' but i don't know exactly how to roll hz's or stuff like that.
do you know any other threads or stickies that explain that?

oh, and:
-no bass, i realize now that that would help quite a bit, but this was made like 3 or 4 months ago. haha.
-and i did pretty much one rhythm track, one lead track for each part.
-yeah, the keyboards were meant to be a little louder during the 'breakdown' after the first chorus, just to kind of jump at you, i suppose. haha.

unfortunately, i cannot find the file for this song on my computer. :|
i'll look vigorously.
i know i can improve this thing tremendously.

I doubt that! haha.

oh yeah, what's a DI track?
(noobie.) ha.

 

[Tokyurot]

First of all you should record 2 tracks of rhythm guitars and pan them 100% left and right in your recording software
to get at least some kind of stereo image. To get a bigger wall of guitars, you can record 4 rhythm guitars and pan
the 2 extra guitars around 80% left and right. In that case you might want to lower the volume of inner guitars abit.

By rolling of low frequencies, you open any EQ-plugin on your guitar track (or bus) and choose 'hi-pass filter' from the EQ-presets and set
the frequency somewhere between 75-100hz, the EQ will then cut the frequencies below that to make your mix sound clearer & less muddy.

Also you should set a 'low-pass filter' on the guitar tracks to cut any excessive highs, 12khz would be a good starting point.

So first thing to get a clearer mix is to set hi-pass/low-pass filters to every instrument. Different instruments prefer different
frequencies, and by reading ALOT in the 'Production Tips' section you'll get a better idea of those.

If you make a DI-track, you'll record the dry signal of your guitar. You can plug your guitar/bass straight in your presonus,
or use a DI-box if you want to hear your line6 tone while recording the dry signal or both.

The advantage of that is that you can then have the dry signal re-amped later, or try some ampsims on it to find different tones.
If you want to try ampsims, you'll then need also a program to load a cabinet, impulse responses (IR's), 'kefir' is a free program.
This forum is full of many great IR's recorded by other members. Search button will be your friend for a long time to come.

I'd start by reading the stickies in the 'Production Tips' area. Good luck now.

 

[shadowstephenson]

Thanks Tokyurot, greatgreat info man.
i'll try all that out.

I have podfarm if you know anything about that.