four year strong-ish band i'm recording

[crashcoast]

hey guys,
so this is my first post on the forum, but i have been lurking around here for about 2 years just learning as much as i could, before i would actually post a mix. many of my questions have been answered by tips tricks and advice on a lot of the threads so thank you all for that. here's a mix if you guys could critique it...any advice?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5243259/uncletea.mp3

 

[Scott Horner]

Kick seems to be too loud and I think the overall bass level could come down a bit. I think if you lowered that, it would really help bring out the rest of the mix. Also, I think the vocals are a bit too dry. Maybe a bit of delay or reverb to sweeten them up. Otherwise, its a cool track. Nice job man!

 

[crashcoast]

thanks scott, glad you like it. i'm gunna pull down the kick and bring the bass down a bit too. i have a delay set up an fx send running through the vocal group channel but you think i should give it some more? i agree, with you though, the vocals are what i'm really unhappy with in the track...they're not sitting right.

i have a lot of compression on it and i staged with compressors on the individual tracks and the group track.

 

[reg3n]

the vox sounds really good for me, it obviously needs more balance like lowering that a bit and adding more warmth, and i'd use (a lot more) gain on guitars and less bass on axes and bass, not really lowering the bass guitar level but maybe taking away some freq's, like over 160hz (that range is an ugly beast for me), and making the kick less bassy and a little but very very little more click on it. My 0.02! Cool song man, keep it up.

Btw, ps. vox settings and post! i really like it

 

[DeclanWhite]

i cant see any resemblance to fys haha. but not bad!

 

[the decline]

Pretty cool song.. theyre more like bayside or something. Whats some details on the drums and guitar?

 

[Charles J]

man, give this a room to breathe in! i feel like i'm listening to it in an anechoic chamber....!!!

=D

 

[crashcoast]

thanks so much for all the advice and kind words guys! will post some screenshots first thing tomorrow for you reg3n. i'll try cutting some around 160 on the bass and adding a little bit more click on the kick as you said, what would you suggest somewhere around 7-10k?

and i probably should have specified this is one of their 'not so four year strong sounding' songs hahaha.

decline, the drums are programmed slate with little processing besides some parallel compression. i can post the settings if you'd like.
the guitars are a mesa boogie single rectifier and a peavey 6505, fx sends out and running into ryan's s-preshigh impulse. not much else except some hi/low pass and a dip around 3.5k to take down some harshness.

man, give this a room to breathe in! i feel like i'm listening to it in an anechoic chamber....!!!

=D

Sig, Help me out here, I've always had a hard time getting depth into my mixes and I feel this is what you're looking for. What way would you go about doing this? Reverb sends? Any advice would be sick.

Thanks everybody =]

 

[crashcoast]

Okay so for some reason my printscreen command isn't working today
but here is the vocal chain for you guys anyway.

the vocals were recorded with a BLUE bluebird into my firepod.
each vocal track has rvox on it:
gate at -41.5
comp around -15.5

and then these tracks were sent to a group track with
1.SSL comp: thresh a little below 0
ratio: 4:1
release: auto
attack: 10ms
makeup: i just played with it to get the level back to where it needed to be before i automate the quieter parts to be...quieter haha

2. req 6 band. with a high pass at 100 with a pretty steep q. a little 1db bump at 3.5k but not much because the bluebird is already super bright.

then an fxchannel with:
1. cubase mod delay:
delay time: 1/4 note
feedback: 13%
delay mod: 0
tempo sync: 1x
then set the mix to 100% and blend the fx track in with the vocal bus accordinngly

2. cubase roomworks
i just used the vocal surround preset and set the mix very low...around 7%

 

[crashcoast]

updated mix! took down the overall bass level. added some click to the kick drum. automated the vocals. added some room reverb to the overall mix. lemme know what you guys think!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5243259/unclemix3.mp3