Fuck it, lets do doubles!

[madcheese9377]

Ok I got two questions for any info you guys can give on these 2 sublects....
1.)Hotel California....what is this song really about? Is it about a mental hospital? or is it about a morgue? I've heard morgue recently and always thought it was a mental hosp.
2.)Slayer-God hates us all...What time waws this record released for sale at cd stores? Cause don't you guys find it a little weird that It came out on 9/11 that morning?
so there it is what do you guys have to say about these?

 

[sixxswine]

2.)Slayer-God hates us all...What time waws this record released for sale at cd stores? Cause don't you guys find it a little weird that It came out on 9/11 that morning?
so there it is what do you guys have to say about these?

All I got to say, wasn't track 13 called "Payback?"
You don't really think they are really in line with the devil himself do you?

 

[Hawk]

Ok I got two questions for any info you guys can give on these 2 sublects....
1.)Hotel California....what is this song really about? Is it about a mental hospital? or is it about a morgue? I've heard morgue recently and always thought it was a mental hosp.

Hotel California is a symbol for the Hollywood life. When bands or artists get succesfull they get addicted to a certain lifestyle with booze, woman, drugs, money, you name it.

You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave [insert wonderfull Joe Walsh guitar solo here ]

Meaning that once you got used to "Life in the Fast Lane" it will be very hard to ever lead a normal life again.

 

[madcheese9377]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.

 

[madcheese9377]

All I got to say, wasn't track 13 called "Payback?"
You don't really think they are really in line with the devil himself do you?

I don't know...I think the Devil knew what was coming,
and somehow everything connects. But on the other hand Maybe
Slayer knew that the Devil knew what was to come and they released
the album right on time.
I guess I'll have to try to email them about it.

 

[Hawk]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.

 

[AntonCrowley_16]

In Gary Patterson's new book it said that it was rumored that Hotel California was about death. If you think about it, that is a pretty logical reason by the lyrics of it. And the thing with Slayer and 9/11, that was just really ironic. With the song Disciple.....that proves that God truly hates us all.

 

[Hawk]

Then I disagree with that Patterson dude.

What Hotel California lyrics point to death?

After your remark I have been searching google to see if I was right.
On this page:

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm

I found this:

"In a 1995 interview, Don Henley said the song "sort of captured the zeitgeist of the time, which was a time of great excess in this country and in the music business in particular." In another interview that same year, he referred to it as being about a "loss of innocence."

The album has as its underlying theme the corruption of impressionable rock stars by the decadent Los Angeles music industry. The celebrated title track presents California as a gilded prison the artist freely enters only to discover that he cannot later escape.

The real Hotel California is not a place; it is a metaphor for the west coast music industry and its effect on the talented but unworldy musicians who find themselves ensnared in its glittering web."

 

[madcheese9377]

That's deep. Thanks Hawk, you're cool as shit, not that shit is cool....you know what I mean.

 

[AntonCrowley_16]

It was a rumor that was going around when the song first came....................’this could be heaven and this could be hell’....Any time of year (any time of year) You can find us here......’we are all just prisoners here of our own device’....And you can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!

 

[Hawk]

That's deep. Thanks Hawk, you're cool as shit, not that shit is cool....you know what I mean.

Thanks man! Yea I do understand

 

[Hawk]

It was a rumor that was going around when the song first came....................’this could be heaven and this could be hell’....Any time of year (any time of year) You can find us here......’we are all just prisoners here of our own device’....And you can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!

Thats weird because I bought the original vinyl album in the week it was released back in 1977 and I did not hear any such rumours.
There were some speculations yea, but those were about drug and sex. Not about death. Sounds like an 80s thing to me.

 

[Wyvern]

I always have understood that 'Hotel California' is about drugs, alcohol and excess.

Stuff like:

Warm smell of colitas,: nothing like a Piña Colada.

My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night: I guess after some booze that happens.

’this could be heaven and this could be hell’: this can be an allegory to drugs too, they seem like heaven but turn to hell.

Her mind is tiffany-twisted,
She got the mercedes benz.
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys,
That she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard,
Sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember,
Some dance to forget: I guess that points to the "empty" class of Beverly Hills/Hollywood. Something in the line of 'Tatooed Millionaire' by Bruce Dickinson.

So I called up the captain,
’please bring me my wine’
He said,’we haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine’: More alcohol and 1969, oh yes nothing like the year of Woodstock (yes I know it was on the other side of the country).


Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice: and more booze!

And she said
’we are all just prisoners here of our own device’
And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
The stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast: prisoners of our own device (or vice?), the steely knives are an allegory to needles. You can inject as much as you want but you can't kill the hunger of the junkie.

’relax,’said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
And you can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!: Yes with drugs, booze and excess you can enter but seldom you can leave.

I have always interpreted the song on this terms, I may be right or just a pile of bullshit.

 

[madcheese9377]

THat sounds pretty damn good actualy.

 

[AntonCrowley_16]

I also heard when he says they havent had that kind of cheer since 69, '69 is suposed to mean the death of rock n roll.

 

[Wyvern]

Death of rock'n'roll my ass , 1969 is when the thing started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*goes wild around the room*

 

[USMC0341]

I always have understood that 'Hotel California' is about drugs, alcohol and excess.

Stuff like:

Warm smell of colitas,: nothing like a Piña Colada.

My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night: I guess after some booze that happens.

’this could be heaven and this could be hell’: this can be an allegory to drugs too, they seem like heaven but turn to hell.

Her mind is tiffany-twisted,
She got the mercedes benz.
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys,
That she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard,
Sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember,
Some dance to forget: I guess that points to the "empty" class of Beverly Hills/Hollywood. Something in the line of 'Tatooed Millionaire' by Bruce Dickinson.

So I called up the captain,
’please bring me my wine’
He said,’we haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine’: More alcohol and 1969, oh yes nothing like the year of Woodstock (yes I know it was on the other side of the country).


Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice: and more booze!

And she said
’we are all just prisoners here of our own device’
And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
The stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast: prisoners of our own device (or vice?), the steely knives are an allegory to needles. You can inject as much as you want but you can't kill the hunger of the junkie.

’relax,’said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
And you can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!: Yes with drugs, booze and excess you can enter but seldom you can leave.

I have always interpreted the song on this terms, I may be right or just a pile of bullshit.

The word is actually "coleus" which is a flowering plant...

 

[USMC0341]

And if anyone has seen Slayer on the God Hates us All tour...they have had a big screen above the stage, and ofter project images on it during and leading up to songs. Befor launching into "Payback"...everything is really dark and they start flashing all kinds of images of terrorists and there's smoke out on the stage and shit...and then they put a picture of Osama bin Laden on the screen, and Tom Araya screams out "Payback's a bitch motherfucker!!!!!" and the songs starts...my take is that song in all about eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, if you get hit you hit back 10 times as hard.

That's my 2 cents...

 

[AntonCrowley_16]

I also heard when he says they havent had that kind of cheer since 69, '69 is suposed to mean the death of rock n roll.

actually if u think about it not really......rock n roll to them was the Woodstock age.