Fucking awesome...

[General Zod]

Although these guys take some serious lumps, because of the overwhelming amount of cheese in their music, there's no getting around that Manowar's "Fighting the World" is classic Metal at its finest.

Fighting the World
Carry On
Violence and Bloodshed
Defender
Holy War...

...and perhaps the greatest Metal song ever, "Black Wind, Fire and Steel".

Few discs can claim 6 songs full of as much timeless, headbanging goodness.

Zod

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Haven't I been saying this all along?!

 

[JayKeeley]

IoftheStorm: Hmm, that's baby making music.

 

[General Zod]

Haven't I been saying this all along?!

I thought this was your least favorite Manowar disc? Didn't you say something about "Carry On" being totally gay, in a Brokeback Mountain sort of way?

Zod

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

ha ha, I'm the only one who says this is their best disc.

Into Glory Ride & Hail To England got nothin' on this 'un

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Well.. half of this album is mediocre.. it's quite possibly the second least good Manowar album. And about the famous "Manowar cheese factor", this is a thing present only in albums like this one or in some songs of "Kings Of Metal" and "Louder Than Hell". If Manowar are cheesy etc, most of the favourite bands of the people who accuse Manowar of being cheesy, are rotten butter.

 

[JayKeeley]

In that case, Bathory = sour milk.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Well.. half of this album is mediocre.. it's quite possibly the second least good Manowar album. And about the famous "Manowar cheese factor", this is a thing present only in albums like this one or in some songs of "Kings Of Metal" and "Louder Than Hell". If Manowar are cheesy etc, most of the favourite bands of the people who accuse Manowar of being cheesy, are rotten butter.

your tastes mostly suck, wasn't sure if you were aware or not

 

[General Zod]

ha ha, I'm the only one who says this is their best disc.

Actually, I'd agree with you. Its only flaw is it really only has 7 songs, and "Blow Your Speakers" I could live without.

Zod

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

I can't understand why everyone & their mums jerks off repeatedly over Hail To England. Yeah, it's good and all, but hardly great.

 

[IOfTheStorm]

your tastes mostly suck, wasn't sure if you were aware or not

Said the Turisas fan.
Anyway.. seriously if you think that an album with dancing songs like "Carry On" "Fighting The World", "Blow Your Speakers" and just 2 (2, not more) authentic epic songs ("Defender" which is a song from the "Into Glory Ride" era and "Black Wind Fire And Steel" which is not that epic, but it's great), is better than an album full of 100% EPIC songs like "Blood Of My Enemies", "Each Dawn I Die", "Kill With Power", " Hail To England" and "Bridge Of Death" - then you have a serious problem. I don't mention "Into Glory Ride" because it's silly to compare this epic and dramatic MASTERPIECE with the much sillyness of "Fighting The World".

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

I've never heard a single song by Turisas

At least use my love of um, Thyrfing or something.

Also, FYI, the word "epic" is the single-most overused descriptive "tag" in the realm of heavy metal. Enough already!

 

[General Zod]

Anyway.. seriously if you think that an album with dancing songs like "Carry On" "Fighting The World"....

I've actually never seen anyone dance to these songs.

..."Blow Your Speakers"

We agree.

..."Defender" which is a song from the "Into Glory Ride" era...

Which era is from is irrelevant. We're not comparing eras, we're comparing discs.

...and "Black Wind Fire And Steel" which is not that epic...

Who cares if something is "epic" (which is a completely subjective term regardless).

...an album full of 100% EPIC songs like "Blood Of My Enemies", "Each Dawn I Die", "Kill With Power", " Hail To England" and "Bridge Of Death".

No doubt, "Hail" is a great CD. These two CDs are 1A and 1B for me. I like them for different reasons.

Zod

 

[MetalAges]

I've always thought that the Fighting the World album was awesome. Definitely one of those album you pull out from time to time and end up listening to about 10 times before putting it back for a spell.

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Gugs: When someone uses this word "epic" to describe Manowar, he is more right than anyone who uses it to describe any other metal band (except Bathory - who copied some of Manowar's style).
Zod: Damn, stop cutting a post (and sentences) into separate pieces, you are altering their meaning, the way you want (in the "Black Wind Fire And Steel" case for example).
Anyway "Fighting The World" has mostly silly and uninspired ideas, songs that any random band could have written (with the exception of the 2 i mentioned), and the only thing that makes them somewhat special, is Adams' voice, musically they are badly typical and boring. On the other hand, the first 4 Manowar albums are full of some of the most atmospheric, intense and emotionally powerfull songs ever written in metal. There is a huge difference.

 

[JayKeeley]

I've never heard a single song by Turisas

I think he meant Tumulus.

 

[JayKeeley]

On the other hand, the first 4 Manowar albums are full of some of the most atmospheric, intense and emotionally powerfull songs ever written in metal. There is a huge difference.

What, even Battle Hymns?!

 

[IOfTheStorm]

You are right.. i should have excluded that, the first side of the album is not as special as the second one, but still "Dark Avenger" and the title track make the album's value to be huge.

 

[Krilons Resa]

Anyway.. seriously if you think that an album with dancing songs like "Carry On" "Fighting The World", "Blow Your Speakers" and just 2 (2, not more) authentic epic songs ("Defender" which is a song from the "Into Glory Ride" era and "Black Wind Fire And Steel" which is not that epic, but it's great), is better than an album full of 100% EPIC songs like "Blood Of My Enemies", "Each Dawn I Die", "Kill With Power", " Hail To England" and "Bridge Of Death" - then you have a serious problem. I don't mention "Into Glory Ride" because it's silly to compare this epic and dramatic MASTERPIECE with the much sillyness of "Fighting The World".

Q4FT

QUOTED FOR THE FUCKING TRUTH

Q4FT

Anyone who doesn't see this is is a moron.

 

[Erik]

i must say... "fighting the world" is fucking terrible. now "hail to england" is another matter entirely, but "carry on" is four hundred tons of cheese and "black wind fire and steel", while fun, is basically just the chorus repeated about 40 times. shit songwriting.

EDIT: yeah and i didn't read the thread, but i completely agree with iots and doomcifer then; "hail to england" is just AMAZING epic metal (excepting black arrows obv), most of fighting the world is cheesy simplistic crap