fucking government...

[deadair]

so, we had to let an employee go last year... lay off. so he has been getting unemployment... no big deal. well, someone here quit, so we offered him his job back... his quote, "well, i guess my free ride is over." but he didn't want the job.

BUT HE FILED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT AGAIN... AND THEY ARE GIVING IT TO HIM!!! meaning, we have to pay.

 

[deadair]

...then bleeding hearts wonder why so many small business owners have a problem with the welfare system.

 

[lizard]

and the homeless...set fire to them.

 

[deadair]

sure....

don't tell me you are sticking up for this fucked up system?

 

[xfer]

haha jake unemployment is not part of the welfare system!

 

[xfer]

"man, people who try to collect on their insurance policies when what they insured against happens are freeloaders"

 

[deadair]

....oh....





then... the unemployment system... who handles that? themselves?

 

[deadair]

...so it's cool that we, a hurting small company, should have to pay 27,000 a year to a guy we offered his job back?

...i don't know why i'm the only one that thinks this is fucked.

 

[xfer]

i'm not sure what you're asking, but unemployment compensation is a form of insurance, not a "free ride".

 

[deadair]

that was his quote... not mine. and WE OFFERED HIS JOB BACK!!! he said no... but he still gets the money... THAT is fucked.

 

[avi]

I'm all for the welfare state

 

[xfer]

$27,000 seems like a lot for you to pay, unless he was a very highly-paid employee. i don't know how the current unemployment system works in terms of exact percentages and the like, but you can generally challenge his award of UC benefits at a referee hearing.

 

[deadair]

help me understand this alex... why is it so?

 

[xfer]

If somebody assaulted you and you pressed charges, and went through the arraignment, indictment, and trial, got a conviction, went through the sentencing, and got the guy five years...

...do you think that, after he's spent a year in jail, you ought to be able to reverse your decision to press charges, and free him from prison?

 

[lizard]

Jake this is obviously a flaw in the system because if he voluntarily turns down the job he should not get the comp.....but when the system works for people who truly need it it is a godsend. I don't know much about state-run comp tho, only federal.

 

[lizard]

and speaking of the federal government, is this not an example of why Bush really, truly, has to go?

He didn't free the slaves.


He didn't rid the world of Hitler.

He didn't even - like his father - preside over the destruction of the Berlin Wall. Yet George W. Bush tells New Yorker writer Ken Auletta: "No President has ever done more for human rights than I have."

 

[xfer]

well, he has done more than his father or Clinton. But when you haven't even done as much as RONALD REAGAN, that's not very impressive.

 

[deadair]

i flew off the handle.

i know it works for a lot of people... i'm just pissed because the company is having a hard enough time as it is. just urked me.

 

[lizard]

I understand. when my son was in first grade I went to his school to pick him up and found one of our civilian personnel office slackers who was collecting comp working as a student aide.

 

[deadair]

...yea, this guy has a job too.