genz benz el diablo clip

[futurism]

I got the amp and cab yesterday, some pics in the other subforum here,
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260869

also got a really crappy alto mic preamp this morning, I know its far from ideal but after buying the amp yesterday I couldnt justify another big spend

I hadnt recorded an amp with a mic for many years, and the last time I did was probably during the metalzone solid state craze over 10 years ago, so I have much to learn.

anyways, heres a couple of quick clips I made this morning

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/genzbenz.mp3
just a really crappy riff, doubled (and out of time), whilst I experimented with mic position.

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/genzbenz2.mp3
A quick simple thing I put some drums to, I like the tone of a couple of the clips in the first mp3 better, but couldnt recreate it for this one, so much more experimenting is to be done.

 

[Nebulous]

The first mic placement you had seemed to be the best IMO. Quite a fizzy top end though, you might like to try a bit of low passing, maybee even back off the gain VERY slightly.

 

[JeffTD]

I think those Genz-Benz speakers are ruining what would otherwise be a cool amp... try that thing with some V30's, and it should sound quite a bit better.

 

[futurism]

another clip
have had a bit more time to try mic placement, dialling a sound in, working out the mic preamp etc.
better results than the first one I think

this is doubled, with a boring lead over the start, and some fake drums

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/genzbenz6.mp3

and the same thing again, guitars only

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/genzbenz6-guitars_only.mp3

signal path - ibanez with inf1 stock pickups -> genz benz el diablo -> sm57 on axis against grill edge of dust cap -> alto mic pre -> sonar

no post effects on guitars
and no bass

 

[RootBoundApollo]

Hot damn

 

[Nebulous]

Got better. There's somethnig a bit wierd about the lowend, though that could just be the guitar's tone.

 

[Kazrog]

Still not a fan of the Genzy Bro tone. It is the Genziest, though.

 

[BrettT]

Sounds like an amp that would be more suited to stoner/fuzz type music. I like the sound, but not something I personally would go for.

 

[ConspiracyBass]

It sounds good, but you need to get rid of those stock pickups. I imagine the amp would shine if you had some Duncans or DiMarzios (maybe even a Bill Lawrence).

 

[futurism]

new clip
different settings on amp, sounds fatter I guess
really short, I know I have posted too many clips

thanks for listening
http://www.r4d.org/stuff/genzbenz7.mp3

 

[Nebulous]

Hehe, that's the part of the tone that I was refering to before, now you've pretty much shown where it's comnig from. If you like it, cool. I'd be inclined to back off on it though.

 

[futurism]

another clip of this amp
I have fitted an emg81 now
this is a bit more than a clip, more like half a song
I think its lacking some brightness, I quickly tried some eq on the mixdown but any more than a tiny bit made the drums sound too tinny

still I think I am getting better?

Lots of people have suggested I would never get enough gain from the amp but this clip seems to have plenty of gain, the opening but is a total arch enemy rip off I realise, its just a bunch of generic riffs after that.
As you can hear I had some issues with feedback near the start, as I was standing just about on top of the amp whilst playing

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/futurism-random_thrashing4.mp3

thanks for listening

edit: for those that prefer a less 'hot' mix, heres one with the faders pulled back a bit, version 4 is RMS average of -9, this one is about -13, I also added just a touch of pantheon reverb to the guitars

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/futurism-random_thrashing5.mp3

 

[ConspiracyBass]

another clip of this amp
I have fitted an emg81 now
this is a bit more than a clip, more like half a song
I think its lacking some brightness, I quickly tried some eq on the mixdown but any more than a tiny bit made the drums sound too tinny

still I think I am getting better?

Lots of people have suggested I would never get enough gain from the amp but this clip seems to have plenty of gain, the opening but is a total arch enemy rip off I realise, its just a bunch of generic riffs after that.
As you can hear I had some issues with feedback near the start, as I was standing just about on top of the amp whilst playing

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/futurism-random_thrashing4.mp3

thanks for listening

edit: for those that prefer a less 'hot' mix, heres one with the faders pulled back a bit, version 4 is RMS average of -9, this one is about -13, I also added just a touch of pantheon reverb to the guitars

http://www.r4d.org/stuff/futurism-random_thrashing5.mp3

This clip does sound better than the other ones you've posted. I'm sure the EMG helped the tone as well as finding better mic placement. I really like the way the amp sounds, would like to hear it through different cabinets though.