God, what the fuck is wrong with David Cronenberg

[Metaltastic]

Xian? Isn't that Chinese?

 

[RemoWilliams]

I remember seeing A History of Violence and being disappointed that they trimmed alot of good stuff that was in the graphic novel. Changed his name and the ending where he goes back to save his friend who had to take the fall for him years earlier when he was young and doing crimes. Plus, I don't think Cronenberg even read the graphic novel. All that aside, for what it was, it wasn't too bad. Good to hear you got a reaction out of it. Most movies now days just abuse graphic violence for the sake of (reason why we have a Saw V, soon to be a Saw VI I'm sure). But, most of Cronenberg's movies lose me, and I really have little idea where its going, though they are interesting to watch. Though, he doesn't lose me as much as David Lynch. I swear, I never understand his movies unless I look up a spoiler, and even then I'm like what the fuck. Though, I didn't understand Dune

P.S. Also, Road to Perdition was an awesome graphic novel that the movie trimmed a lot of good stuff from. There was a far greater body count in the graphic novel. Though, movie was still a pleasant watch though.

 

[grywolf627]

... I just read the summary of "Dead Ringers," and that looks as if it could even be stranger than the two I've seen, so I'm just gonna stay the hell away from him in the future.

Yeah, "Dead Ringers" really messed with me. Such a twisted movie. Just thinking back at the movie brings on a big, massive, uber "ICK" type feeling. I think that was the first and the last Cronenberg movie for me.

 

[Metaltastic]

I think that was the first and the last Cronenberg movie for me.

SMART CHOICE Mark

 

[Metaltastic]

Good to hear you got a reaction out of it.

Hmm, yeah, that's one way to put it, but I would hate to think someone would be so dead inside that they would enjoy the kind of reaction I got :Smug:

 

[RemoWilliams]

Hmm, yeah, that's one way to put it, but I would hate to think someone would be so dead inside that they would enjoy the kind of reaction I got :Smug:

True, but still good. Not many movies now days warrant any kind of reactions since most are just throw away films. Maybe the graphic novel would be more up your alley.

 

[JBroll]

I liked the film - nothing cliche or predictable...

Jeff

 

[Glenn Fricker]

I liked a History of Violence. Then again, I had no preconceptions of what it was supposed to be, so I wasn't disappointed.

I also liked Existenz....

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Although Eastern Promises is Viggo at his finest.

+1. I thought that movie was fantastic!

 

[HandsOfDespair]

I fucking loved movies with a bad ending, like ''the mist''.

I remember when I saw Eagle Eye at the movie theater

SPOILERS

At the ending, I was like, fuck! Why did the guy survived! The ending of this movie would have been so much better if the guy died. I'm fucking tired of movies with cheesy everyone is happy ending.

 

[HandsOfDespair]

I fucking loved movies with a bad ending, like ''the mist''.

I remember when I saw Eagle Eye at the movie theater

SPOILERS

At the ending, I was like, fuck! Why did the guy survived! The ending of this movie would have been so much better if the guy died. I'm fucking tired of movies with cheesy everyone is happy ending.

 

[Skinny Viking]

Yeah, I guess it wasn't the violence specifically that bothered me, but more the frustrating ambiguity and bizarreness of Mortensen's character; the fact that, once he realized he had to own up to being Joey, had this weird fucking way of dancing around it, and it was hard to tell whether or not he had some sort of dissociative identity disorder and had regressed back into his old self or what; I mean, I just felt so depressed seeing him go from a loving father and family man to killing all those people with no remorse, no "my god, no, what have I done, I wanted to leave all this behind me" moments, just this fucking savagery - it was very emotionally taxing for me. I would have so much preferred if it were just a case of a guy leaving the mob and trying to start a new life, but this just seemed so much more twisted than that, and it almost seemed like he enjoyed it at times.

And what the FUCK was up with that angry sex scene on the stairs? I mean, that was another point where he seemed to "be" Joey, he didn't apologize to his wife or say something like "I'm so sorry, I try to control these urges, etc." - I felt very betrayed by this character I had come to like, and this is what I mean when I say movies like this are for people who revel in things that show human beings for our very worst. And yes, make no mistake, I HATED Crash

I thought that was really what made the movie so cool. Instead of this big hollywood "character development" bullshit thing they feel they have to do a lot of times, he just hits this point where he's busted, can't hide the truth anymore. At that point it becomes more a "gotta do what you gotta do thing" and as for the human aspect of it, think of it as he's single minded in his goal of protecting his family. Thats the long and short of it. As for the angry sex scene ... ummmm, thats pretty fucking realistic if you ask me. No slow motion, no overly "tender" touching and smiles and hand holding ... it was real. Thats what people do and look like when they are in the middle of some major emotional upheaval and are more seeking release from that than trying to connect with the person. Its brutal, its ugly, its passionate and that is about as real as it can get sometimes.

I liked the movie ... sometimes I think too many people want things wrapped up in a nice, easy to digest package which can be fine but maybe THAT desensitizes us to reality also.