grindcore

because it isnt. its like saying hardcore counts as metal. really its more like technical punk. the idea of playing fast and loud combined with technicallity.
 
Usually it's both, sometimes grindcore bands are more punk influenced than metal, and sometimes they are more metal. Also grindcore came from punk circles. For example these bands influenced grindcore a lot, all of these are punk


Well, ent can be count as grind band.

 
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