guess who just got a gamecube

Yeah I played through most of the Seiken Denetsu 3 storylines. Legend of Mana was a piece of shit. But Ocarina of Time was fucking amazing.

SotN was AMAZING but talk about easy?? Once you get the Crissaegrim sword there's practically no way to die!
 
Yeah, Symphony of the Night was easy... it's something of an anomaly for me. My other two favorite PSX games, Final Fantasy Tactics and Vagrant Story, were very very fucking insanely difficult games, especially FFT. Usually I prefer games with large difficulties, but Symphony of the Night was a lot like Super Metroid (my second favorite game) and that game was easy as piss too... I just love that exploratory style of 2d gaming.
 
I've played the first Persona, and I liked it for a long time, around 40 hours... and then I got bored of the combat. It definitely had very innovative combat, but the battles got so boring after a while, just like almost every rpg.

On a side note, I wish that rpgs would stop having turn based battles that are so devoid of strategy. If you are going to be turn based, do it like Final Fantasy Tactics. But I'd prefer real time battles or a combination of real time / turn based like the Baldur's Gate style. Turn based is so outdated...
 
LuminousAether said:
I've played the first Persona, and I liked it for a long time, around 40 hours... and then I got bored of the combat. It definitely had very innovative combat, but the battles got so boring after a while, just like almost every rpg.

On a side note, I wish that rpgs would stop having turn based battles that are so devoid of strategy. If you are going to be turn based, do it like Final Fantasy Tactics. But I'd prefer real time battles or a combination of real time / turn based like the Baldur's Gate style. Turn based is so outdated...

Yeah I really hated the new Final Fantasy game....It's teeny boppin bull shit. Xenosaga had some good strategy for a turn based game with that event wheel....But then there are 30 minute cut scenes every couple of hours of gameplay. I'm with you I like strategy games....Especially real time strategy like Warcraft. As for the Metal GEar Series...I liked the first one(third), Metal Gear Solid) for PS the most. And Castevania SOTN is probably my favorite game. Anyway if you guys want a really hard game that is like old school Zeldas...Check out Alundra for the Playstation 1(PS). Fucking insane puzzles. And it's really long.
 
RabidWarfare said:
Yeah I really hated the new Final Fantasy game....It's teeny boppin bull shit. Xenosaga had some good strategy for a turn based game with that event wheel....But then there are 30 minute cut scenes every couple of hours of gameplay. I'm with you I like strategy games....Especially real time strategy like Warcraft. As for the Metal GEar Series...I liked the first one(third), Metal Gear Solid) for PS the most. And Castevania SOTN is probably my favorite game. Anyway if you guys want a really hard game that is like old school Zeldas...Check out Alundra for the Playstation 1(PS). Fucking insane puzzles. And it's really long.

Haha, man... we have the same tastes in games. I don't know about Xenosaga as I haven't played it, but that's the way I felt about Xenogears, especially the second disc which was more like reading a book than playing a game (good thing it had the best story I've ever seen in a video game then).

But Alundra... one of my favorite games of the style. Those puzzles are wicked. I never got that sword on that statue though... I must have missed something. I thought it had a pretty deep storyline for that style, a lot deeper than Zelda to say the least. I never played the sequel or the prequel, but I've heard the sequel wasn't as good and the prequel (well, not really a prequel, but an action rpg made by the same team) was awesome. The prequel I'm talking about is of course Landstalkers or whatever the title was, something very similar to that if my memory hasn't failed me.
 
LuminousAether said:
But I'd prefer real time battles or a combination of real time / turn based like the Baldur's Gate style. Turn based is so outdated...



Apparently this is the type of combat Knight of the Old Republic is gonna have... should be nice.
 
Xenogears is probably the best turn based console style RPG ever. I loved the combat in that game. And who doesn't love giant robots?

In other news, Metroid Prime just froze on me. And I was making good progress! A pox on thee, Retro Studios!
 
Yeah, Metroid Prime has some freezing problems, mostly in one of the early elevators. I just saved it frequently and wished for the best. As far as I can tell, that is the only problem with the game, and I believe they fixed it in later versions.
 
LuminousAether said:
Haha, man... we have the same tastes in games. I don't know about Xenosaga as I haven't played it, but that's the way I felt about Xenogears, especially the second disc which was more like reading a book than playing a game (good thing it had the best story I've ever seen in a video game then).

Supposedly the funding for Xenogears was cut off by Square (to further finance that shitty FF VIII), so the developement team did a rush job to finish the game up. This resulting in the second disc being incomplete and some of the character development being stunted all around.

A good source on the Xenogears story:

http://www.escaflowneonline.com/xenogears/pw/

And Persona "2" is so much better than the first that it's not even funny. Sad thing is, it's really part 2.5. The true part 2 never came out over here. It was split into 2 seperate games in Japan (kind of like Xenosaga being split into so many episodes), but the first half was at first deemed inappropriate for the US (something to do with Nazi's and a school shooting). So we got the second half as out part 2. Atlus later said that if the second half did well enough we would get the first part. It didn't and we didn't.
 
I'm going to have to try to find all these PSX games being mentioned in this thread, like SotN, Persona, and FFT, since I've never played them and they sound great. Hopefully I kind find them at a somewhat reduced price somewhere.
 
LuminousAether said:
Haha, man... we have the same tastes in games. I don't know about Xenosaga as I haven't played it, but that's the way I felt about Xenogears, especially the second disc which was more like reading a book than playing a game (good thing it had the best story I've ever seen in a video game then).

But Alundra... one of my favorite games of the style. Those puzzles are wicked. I never got that sword on that statue though... I must have missed something. I thought it had a pretty deep storyline for that style, a lot deeper than Zelda to say the least. I never played the sequel or the prequel, but I've heard the sequel wasn't as good and the prequel (well, not really a prequel, but an action rpg made by the same team) was awesome. The prequel I'm talking about is of course Landstalkers or whatever the title was, something very similar to that if my memory hasn't failed me.

I can't believe someone knew about Alundra...hah....Apparently to get that sword you have to spend a lot of time on the game(like 40+ hours i think) and die alot....Well I died alot....but I didnt use that much time up. But basically you have to be shitty at the game to get the sword...So it's good you didnt get it. I was way too young for Landstalkers when it came out on Genesis. I rented it but didn't get very far because the puzzles were beyond my ~10 year old brain. I don't even remember enough of it to say if it was good or not, but it was very different from Alundra. And Alundra 2 I didn't bother with becuase I heard that the puzzles weren't near as good, and I was pissed it was 3D. Xenogears is my favorite RPG of all time....Even over Chrono Trigger. My favorite Genesis games were by far the Shining Forces by the way....
 
ChromeLife said:
Xenogears was quality storytelling. It was like FF... but at the same time very different. I am pissed i have no Ps2 to ply xenosaga on.

In my opinion Xenosaga isn't as good as Xenogears....It's not a bad game though. I think it will get better was time goes on in the 6 part series.
 
Xenogears is definitely my favorite RPG of all time.

The storyline just kicks ass.

However, I still feel that the best RPG I have ever played in my life is Skies of Arcadia.

FuSoYa, I really recommend you pick up the Gamecube version ASAP. It's amazing.

Xenosaga was definitely not as good as Xenogears, unfortunately. I liked it, but it doesn't hold a candle to Xenogears.

I wish the wait between episodes were shorter. That really kills me.
 
I think the best rpgs I have ever played are for the PC. That is, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale, and Baldur's Gate 2.

The rpg I have played the most is probably Morrowind, which I have played for a good 150-200 hours, and I was only about halfway through the game. That game was so long it was mind-boggling.