Gun Master Debate

jesus fucking christ man, no one is reading that shit. Get the fuck out!

This is exactly the "head-in-the-sand-ostrich-act" that I was talking about earlier. Brainwashed minions always "conveniently" ignore and run away from hard facts, studies, and statistics that contradict the world view that someone else has carefully constructed to control their lives. Ever heard of the phrase "willfully ignorant," son?
 
jesus fucking christ man, no one is reading that shit. Get the fuck out!

No one is reading it or gives a shit, but it's all the person goes on and on about on the forum. The person must have been dropped on their head a few times. Jesus fucking christ. Hopefully someone with a gun actually shoots the person right in the fucking head in their lifetime.
 
I just don't get why he still posts when nobody likes him at all, he has posted Slipknot and similar crap bands in some threads obviously to troll, the trick is, he posts in a way that even though he is trolling or being a asshole he is still somehow going by the rules of the forum and not being banned.
 
If you want to talk about motivations, then let's do so. It's already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt numerous times in this topic that the N.R.A. is firmly under the payroll of the gun manufacturing companies in trhe USA, so if you're millitantly pro-gun then you either/or:
*believe all the propaganda that the N.R.A. spews out with it's millions of dollars in advertising.
*already own a gun, which places your motivation firmly within the realm of personal financial self-interest, which obviously holds very little water in any debate about the welfare of society.
At the end of the day being pro-gun just means you're in favor of funding greedy multinational corporations that would do anything to make a quick buck - including selling killing machines to people so they can carry them in their pockets.
By contrast, I don't have any financial self-interest at all, my main interest to avoid the perpetual bloodshed that a lack of gun control inevitably unleashes, as has been shown many times in this topic. I don't have any well-oiled multi-million dollar advertising (propaganda) campaign influencing my thoughts like the gun-nuts do, just common sense and an abhorrence of violence. Furthermore, my view (in favour of very strict gun control regulations) is one shared by the majority of the people on this planet, people that aren't brainwashed by corporations in the country with the biggest gun manufacturers.
Not wanting to see little kids getting killed, maimed, and injured by freely-available killing machines wins against personal financial self-interest regarding killing machines as a motivation every time.
 
No one is reading it or gives a shit, but it's all the person goes on and on about on the forum. The person must have been dropped on their head a few times. Jesus fucking christ. Hopefully someone with a gun actually shoots the person right in the fucking head in their lifetime.

Shut the fuck up.
If you gun crazy lowlifes can't handle a simple debate - you get the fuck out.

Fucking weak...
 
Everyone in this thread still needs shot.

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Well, now that debate in this thread seems to have died down, I'm going to keep it updated with all the latest fruit that has been harvested from the great American gun epidemic orchard. Here's a starter:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/infant-girl-shot-5-times-during-diaper-change-18709227

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/12/chicago-infant-shot-5-tim_0_n_2859812.html

Chicago Infant Shot 5 Times Dies; Dad In Critical

CHICAGO — A 6-month old girl became the latest innocent victim of Chicago gang violence when a gunman ambushed her father while he was changing her diaper along a South Side street and unloaded round after round into the two of them.

Jonylah Watkins died at a hospital Tuesday after surgeons did what they could to repair the damage from the five bullets that tore through her body during Monday's attack in Woodlawn. Her father, Jonathan Watkins, was in serious but stable condition Tuesday after receiving treatment for wounds to his buttocks and side and a graze to his face, police said.

Jonathan Watkins is a gang member with a long criminal history – including a three-year prison sentence on a weapons charge_ and there is little doubt he was the target of the attack, Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said at a news conference Tuesday hours after the infant died. Watkins was standing in his car door changing his daughter's diaper around lunchtime when the gunman approached and opened fire.

"He was obviously targeted," McCarthy said. "It was very clear that whoever was doing this was firing at the father and exclusively at the father who happened to be sitting in a minivan with the child."

Such news conferences have become all too common of late. The city recorded more than 500 homicides last year for the first time since 2008, and only weeks ago McCarthy was vowing to capture those responsible for killing 15-year-old honors student Hadiya Pendleton, who was gunned down on a South Side street in an apparent case of mistaken identity.

Two suspected gang members have been charged with killing Pendleton, and on Monday, McCarthy said his department's renewed push to fight gang violence is paying dividends. There were only 14 homicides recorded in February, which is half of last February's amount and the lowest monthly total since January 1957.

On Tuesday, a day after the superintendent reported that the number of homicides were down 26 percent this year compared to the same period last year, McCarthy acknowledged that the infant's shooting makes it "hard to see the progress" and is a sobering reminder that "we have a lot of work to do."

McCarthy said that police have surveillance video that shows the van they believe was the getaway vehicle. And he said Investigators were trying to verify the existence of an alleged Facebook post threatening Watkins.

Area residents surmised that the gunman may not have known that the infant was in the van.




"They know who they were going after, but because he was bent over her changing the diaper they didn't see that child was in the damn car," said Carl Whitehead, a resident of the block where the shooting occurred.

McCarthy said detectives had spoken to Jonathan Watkins, but that they hadn't determined if he plans to cooperate with their investigation or not.

"We don't have one individual that's really stepping up to help us," he said.

Police often have a hard time getting witnesses to talk about suspected gang-related cases. For example, in the Pendleton case, one of the suspects refused to cooperate with investigators after he was shot month's before the honors student's killing.

The superintendent said the neighborhood where the infant was killed is the site of numerous gang conflicts, and that police saturated the area in the area Monday night "in the vicinity of the two gangs we believe to be involved in this conflict."

Monday's attack added to the grim roster of young children who have been gunned down, including a 7-year-old girl who was caught in the crossfire of a gang shootout while selling snow cones last summer and a 6-year-old girl killed a year earlier while sitting between her mother's legs on the family's porch.

The attack wasn't even Jonylah's first brush with gun violence. Her mother, Judy Watkins, was shot in the knee while pregnant with her, according to the woman's mother, Mary Young.

"There's too much shooting over there," Young told reporters Monday. Speaking of her granddaughter, she added, "She's nothing but 6 months old. How could anybody – what kind of heart?"

On Tuesday, there were two piles of window glass where the bullet-riddled van was parked a day earlier. There was also a makeshift memorial to the girl typical after such tragedies that included a couple of stuffed animals, a giftwrapped box and a helium-filled balloon with the words "Love Ya" on it.

"I walked past this spot every day," said Whitehead. I got a one-year-old granddaughter right up stairs. This has got to stop."
 
Shut the fuck up.
If you gun crazy lowlifes can't handle a simple debate - you get the fuck out.

Fucking weak...

I'm not gun crazy and do not even own a gun, but if someone and their family live in Alaska in the middle of nowhere in a cabin they need a Gun to hunt and survive. Can't say I have a problem with it. The Government and society can't condemn everyone's rights because of the people who do not follow the laws of life. Would you like it if beer became illegal because of people who get killed by drunk drivers. I bet you would not like that much.
 
I'm not gun crazy and do not even own a gun, but if someone and their family live in Alaska in the middle of nowhere in a cabin they need a Gun to hunt and survive. Can't say I have a problem with it. The Government and society can't condemn everyone's rights because of the people who do not follow the laws of life. Would you like it if beer became illegal because of people who get killed by drunk drivers. I bet you would not like that much.

Which is why the government is the USA needs to seriously tighten gun control laws like most other civilized countries in the world so that the ONLY people who have them are the ones who need them for hunting.
 
Honestly, I don't need to give you a reason for why I should be allowed to own a weapon. Any weapon. It's a natural human right, and no governmental body has the right to take that from me.

Period.
 
Honestly, I don't need to give you a reason for why I should be allowed to own a weapon. Any weapon. It's a natural human right, and no governmental body has the right to take that from me.

Period.

And who gave you this right? Please don't site the constitution, because you'd be incorrect.

Also, what the fuck is wrong with universal background checks?
 
That people shouldn't own each other is what the issue is. Guns are merely a side issue on the greater one. Since many seem comfortable with the concept of various forms of slavery, we shall then fight and grovel for crumbs or sometimes gosh darn it a whole sandwich on a occasion!

Krig is overjoyed that for now his owners have allowed him to continue his pasttime, while others are dismayed. In other issues, times, places situations are the reverse.

The plantation chugs along. As the state tightens it dies. Unfortunately these things usually take much longer than one lifetime to unfold/complete.